PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI

[pd]

Wow, UCWarden. The Director called you on this?  Amazing.

The new director is no fool, and will watch his ways in Olympia very cautiously. So don't get your hopes up too high. However, progress in WDFW is going in the right direction. I--for one--am very pleased with Mr. Unsworth.

Good work, UCWarden!

[ctwiggs1]

I have mixed emotions about this.  When these d bags get tossed to the wolves, does that mean ucwarden is leaving us???

[Gringo31]

This is good news!

His reply to me was this...

I have received your e-mail.

 

Jim

I'm slightly optimistic!

[trophyhunt]

That is all I received also.

[ucwarden]

That is great news!!  Nice to see some action for all your efforts, I'm going to send him a thank you e mail!  Thanks for keeping this important issue rolling, good job you guys!

That would be great.  Thanks

[ucwarden]

Wow, UCWarden. The Director called you on this?  Amazing.

The new director is no fool, and will watch his ways in Olympia very cautiously. So don't get your hopes up too high. However, progress in WDFW is going in the right direction. I--for one--am very pleased with Mr. Unsworth.

Good work, UCWarden!

It's one step at a time.  As long as the steps are in the right direction, I will take them!
Thanks

[ucwarden]

I have mixed emotions about this.  When these d bags get tossed to the wolves, does that mean ucwarden is leaving us???

You know, when I started this campaign to clean house, I had never seen a chat or forum and didn't much like it.  Over the last several months I have found a lot of support from a lot of good people on here, so no; I am not going anywhere.  Just remember that if you ever need me, just email me:   ucwarden@gmail.com and tell me to log on hunting-Washington.....I will be there.  Thanks

[HntnFsh]

Great news Todd! Really appreciate all your effort! Thank you for hanging in there! 

[idahohuntr]

More indication Unsworth is the right man for the job!

UC - I don't know anything about WA state employment...can Unsworth just fire Cenci if he sees enough evidence to have concerns about the guy?  Or is it a fairly rigorous process to fire a guy like that?  Seems like so many times I've read in the paper about cops being so protected by unions that even when they've have done many blatant unethical or illegal acts they still don't get fired.  In Idaho Unsworth could fire this guy on the spot...in WA, probably not so easy.     

[mfswallace]

idahohuntr-More indication Unsworth is the right man for the job!

Let's see more movement on actually doing something about wolves and see if he keeps grizzlies out of our state!!

[ucwarden]

More indication Unsworth is the right man for the job!

UC - I don't know anything about WA state employment...can Unsworth just fire Cenci if he sees enough evidence to have concerns about the guy?  Or is it a fairly rigorous process to fire a guy like that?  Seems like so many times I've read in the paper about cops being so protected by unions that even when they've have done many blatant unethical or illegal acts they still don't get fired.  In Idaho Unsworth could fire this guy on the spot...in WA, probably not so easy. 

I am not certain.  My understanding is that everyone from Lt. up the chain is in "executive mngt." and therefore are at will employees and can be cut at any time.  The question then is; who can cut them?  I suspect the director can cut the chief, the chief can cut the deputy chief, and so on.

[Jonathan_S]

Let's see more movement on actually doing something about wolves and see if he keeps grizzlies out of our state!!

Every good thing is a good thing.  Doesn't hurt to accept small wins once in a while.  Nothing is going to happen quickly wolf-wise and Grizz have been here for a very long time and aren't on the precipice of population explosion.

[HntnFsh]

UC, I would assume WSP would be about as unbiased as you can get. Are your thoughts the same? What kind of time frame for this. Seems like they always take a year or two. Does WSP just do the investigation and send Unsworth a report.  Who else would get a report? Do they make any recommendations based on their findings?

[ucwarden]

UC, I would assume WSP would be about as unbiased as you can get. Are your thoughts the same? What kind of time frame for this. Seems like they always take a year or two. Does WSP just do the investigation and send Unsworth a report.  Who else would get a report? Do they make any recommendations based on their findings?

Yes, I too believe WSP is neutral and will do a great job.  They told me to expect it to take 3 to 4 months, and in the end they don't present a recommendation to Unsworth, just a report.  It will then be up to Unsworth to decide what to do with the findings of the report.

[turbo]

I took 2 days and read every word of this thread as well as all links and I want to thank all involved. One thing on a very selfish note is I personally fear retaliation and believe that is a huge reason some are not signing or getting involved. It's about the tag draw.. 

I really respect you guys putting it all on the line by getting involved while still employed. Very brave! You guys have real risk here and I hope it works out to be a positive experience. You guys are hero's!

I'm a letter writer/pain in the butt with our legislatures but this one scares me. I don't have a lot of trust in the system right now and the people running it. Seems they can do what the want with zero consequences.

Thanks UCWarden and BigTex and others for all of the detail. I do want to say that every experience I have had with field officers has been very positive, I know there are some really bad people in the "system" but there are some really good one's too. Lets take out the trash!