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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #120 on: April 01, 2014, 08:34:17 AM »
Thanks for the link. Looks like I got lots of home work
Yea...I would do your homework alright.  Any link wolfbait gives you is almost certain to be nothing but a bunch of conspiracy garbage dreamed up by unemployed anti-government dumb@%$# who belong in a locked padded room.  For example, his first link takes you to a page and one of the subjects is conservation easements.  The page tells you how evil they are...what a joke.  Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #121 on: April 01, 2014, 08:38:59 AM »
Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #122 on: April 01, 2014, 08:43:36 AM »
99.9% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. Human beings had a hand in a very very small amount of those.

The difference is that we have done our damage in the course of a couple hundred years, which is geological time is faster than the blast of an atomic bomb. We are killing off species much faster than the meteor finished off the dinosaurs. And if we don't get the climate change under control, we could speed it up even more.

Human beings are the most vicious extinction even the planet has ever seen.

What makes you think we are having a climate change?  We as humans have only been keeping track of weather for a few hundred years. How do we know what's normal?  Global warming is a total joke!!!!!
It is totally ignorant to deny a recent, rapid climate change.  We can argue about the cause, but the climate is changing very rapidly.

The geologic record is quite clear that the climate has changed, it is also clear that the climate has been warming.  It borders on ignorance to argue against global warming.  What is fair game for discussion is the degree of anthropogenic warming.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #123 on: April 01, 2014, 08:44:42 AM »
To get this debate back on track and off the HOAX and the HOAX'sters!!  For THOSE on here that have swallowed hook line and sinker, that is what the "founders" of the Weather Channel called the CC and GW propaganda!! :yike:

"Since the fraud and corruption of the wolf introduction has been proven time and time agin, the spotted owl now plays into the same game."

DON'T forget about what the "scientist" did with the "Lynx"  :bash: it and all the other "lies,fraud,planted evidence and corrupt politicians"  have taken a lot of "creditability" from the realm of scientific findings!   
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #124 on: April 01, 2014, 08:46:37 AM »
99.9% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. Human beings had a hand in a very very small amount of those.

The difference is that we have done our damage in the course of a couple hundred years, which is geological time is faster than the blast of an atomic bomb. We are killing off species much faster than the meteor finished off the dinosaurs. And if we don't get the climate change under control, we could speed it up even more.

Human beings are the most vicious extinction even the planet has ever seen.

What makes you think we are having a climate change?  We as humans have only been keeping track of weather for a few hundred years. How do we know what's normal?  Global warming is a total joke!!!!!

The geologic record is quite clear that the climate has changed, it is also clear that the climate has been warming.  It borders on ignorance to argue against global warming.  What is fair game for discussion is the degree of anthropogenic warming.
Since the ice age maybe but before that it was tropical all over.  Its bad science is what it is!

What's bad is somebody commenting on "bad science" who doesn't realize that we've had periodic ice ages all the into the Archian
http://geology.utah.gov/surveynotes/gladasked/gladice_ages.htm

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #125 on: April 01, 2014, 08:49:53 AM »
Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.

He just wants to control the message P-Man, we have seen this with others over the years.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #126 on: April 01, 2014, 08:50:45 AM »
Thanks for the link. Looks like I got lots of home work
Yea...I would do your homework alright.  Any link wolfbait gives you is almost certain to be nothing but a bunch of conspiracy garbage dreamed up by unemployed anti-government dumb@%$# who belong in a locked padded room.
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Hahaha.... yeah, its sort of like that.  Some pretty crazy ideas get posted up with regard to conservation.

 

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #127 on: April 01, 2014, 08:56:13 AM »
Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.

He just wants to control the message P-Man, we have seen this with others over the years.
As opposed to what?.... you delivering this crap like it's gospel and defending every stupid anti-wolf, anti conservation, and anti-government post until rational people throw their hands in the air and quit the "dialogue" is a pretty good example of "controlling the message"

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #128 on: April 01, 2014, 08:56:52 AM »
To get this debate back on track and off the HOAX and the HOAX'sters!!  For THOSE on here that have swallowed hook line and sinker, that is what the "founders" of the Weather Channel called the CC and GW propaganda!! :yike:

"Since the fraud and corruption of the wolf introduction has been proven time and time agin, the spotted owl now plays into the same game."

DON'T forget about what the "scientist" did with the "Lynx"  :bash: it and all the other "lies,fraud,planted evidence and corrupt politicians"  have taken a lot of "creditability" from the realm of scientific findings!   

And now after 18 years of lies from the USFWS and state game agencies the same "science" is still being used in WA and other states. More studies on the same problems that MT, ID and Wyoming had. The illegally introduced wolves just keep on giving, it's like they are a new wolf in every state they "migrate" to.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #129 on: April 01, 2014, 08:58:06 AM »
Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.

He just wants to control the message P-Man, we have seen this with others over the years.
As opposed to what?.... you delivering this crap like it's gospel and defending every stupid anti-wolf, anti conservation, and anti-government post until rational people throw their hands in the air and quit the "dialogue" is a pretty good example of "controlling the message"

Are you upset with me Wacoyote?

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #130 on: April 01, 2014, 09:01:01 AM »
Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.

He just wants to control the message P-Man, we have seen this with others over the years.
As opposed to what?.... you delivering this crap like it's gospel and defending every stupid anti-wolf, anti conservation, and anti-government post until rational people throw their hands in the air and quit the "dialogue" is a pretty good example of "controlling the message"

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #131 on: April 01, 2014, 09:10:38 AM »
Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.

He just wants to control the message P-Man, we have seen this with others over the years.
I only call people tinfoil hat folks when they spout garbage with no factual basis and they have to resort to wild conspiracies and secrets to justify their statements...I call a spade a spade.  Sorry it doesn't fit into your little view where you post something and a bunch of lemmings follow you over a cliff. 

By the way, why don't you explain to me why conservation easements are such a bad thing as reported in that link you posted wolfbait? 
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #132 on: April 01, 2014, 09:19:35 AM »
Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.

He just wants to control the message P-Man, we have seen this with others over the years.
I only call people tinfoil hat folks when they spout garbage with no factual basis and they have to resort to wild conspiracies and secrets to justify their statements...I call a spade a spade.  Sorry it doesn't fit into your little view where you post something and a bunch of lemmings follow you over a cliff. 

By the way, why don't you explain to me why conservation easements are such a bad thing as reported in that link you posted wolfbait?

Here's a couple more links you might like ID.

THE WILDLANDS PROJECT
http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/wildlands_project_step_by_step.htm


THE WILDLANDS PROJECT  http://nwri.org/the-wildlands-project/



The Consensus Process  http://nwri.org/the-consensus-process/

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #133 on: April 01, 2014, 09:24:01 AM »
To get this debate back on track and off the HOAX and the HOAX'sters!!  For THOSE on here that have swallowed hook line and sinker, that is what the "founders" of the Weather Channel called the CC and GW propaganda!! :yike:

"Since the fraud and corruption of the wolf introduction has been proven time and time agin, the spotted owl now plays into the same game."

DON'T forget about what the "scientist" did with the "Lynx"  :bash: it and all the other "lies,fraud,planted evidence and corrupt politicians"  have taken a lot of "creditability" from the realm of scientific findings!   

Why not just come out and say that if Spotted Owls go extinct it's of zero concern to you? Most people will never see one; who needs them anyway, right? Similar scenario with old growth: why not cut them all down? What kind of fool would leave a good stand of merchantable timber there to rot over the centuries?

There's so much more honesty in that debate. How often does it boil down to a guy who will scour the internet for any shred of material that could be viewed as supporting their predetermined opinion (The REAL science is on my side!). So what if they have to wade through an overwhelming amount of evidence that goes contrary to what they just deep down want to believe because it supports their career, or their political, religious, or cultural beliefs.

It's not easy to be open to your own ideas being challenged. You are forced to defend them, and in the process have to be open to allowing sometimes tightly held beliefs to evolve based on debate.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #134 on: April 01, 2014, 09:40:55 AM »
Wolfbait, anyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theorist or wears a tinfoil hat.

He just wants to control the message P-Man, we have seen this with others over the years.
I only call people tinfoil hat folks when they spout garbage with no factual basis and they have to resort to wild conspiracies and secrets to justify their statements...I call a spade a spade.  Sorry it doesn't fit into your little view where you post something and a bunch of lemmings follow you over a cliff. 

By the way, why don't you explain to me why conservation easements are such a bad thing as reported in that link you posted wolfbait?

I've got it. Anyone who disagrees with you "wears tinfoil hats", a "lemming with a little view", or a "conspiracy theorist". Great. Elitist much?
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