hoyt faktor 34

[wariner87]

I got a chance to shoot a hoyt bow for the first time ever.
Tried out the faktor 34 and right away I was thoroughly impressed.   Super smooth draw, no vibration not to mention it seemed like it was ergonomically made to fit my hand.

 My first bow is the diamond outlaw, while it is a great bow for a beginner, it is in no way  close to the hoyt I shot.
Can't wait to see what other bows are on the market .

[xXLojackXx]

Go shoot the carbon spyder and the turbo. It's an eye opener.

[Vo2max]

Just purchased the Hoyt Faktor 34... Holy smokes! What an absolutely incredible bow! I had my heart set on an Elite Energy 35 but the Faktor 34 beckoned. Smoothest draw, solid back wall and no "jumpy" tendencies... Smoothest and quietest fast bow I've ever experienced. I got it because I needed the 31" draw and wanted to shoot 80lbs. Again, absolutely indlcredible. Combine it with the Spott Hogg Hogg Father and I'm in love!

[RadSav]

I did not buy one this year as I knew I would never get the time to do my usual new product testing.  However I did get a chance to play with it while at the NABA show.  Granted, I wasn't able to spend the time to break it all down like I usually do.  But my impression of the Faktor 34 and even the 30 was that it might be the most enjoyable Hoyt bow to shoot since the Vectrix   For your draw length I think the Faktor 34 and the CPXL are easily the best choices this year.  I'm sure you will be happy with it for at least 18 months     Good choice IMO.

[D-Rock425]

You really need to shoot the carbon bow right next to the faktor.  Carbon bow is even smoother.  Not sure its worth the price jump that's up to you.

[RadSav]

You really need to shoot the carbon bow right next to the faktor.  Carbon bow is even smoother.  Not sure its worth the price jump that's up to you.

The price tag just makes it feel like it   And that's one expensive 1.6 ounces!

[D-Rock425]

You really need to shoot the carbon bow right next to the faktor.  Carbon bow is even smoother.  Not sure its worth the price jump that's up to you.

The price tag just makes it feel like it   And that one expensive 1.6 ounces!

I think it has less shock then the faktor.  Still not sure its worth the extra coin.

[xXLojackXx]

You really need to shoot the carbon bow right next to the faktor.  Carbon bow is even smoother.  Not sure its worth the price jump that's up to you.

The price tag just makes it feel like it   And that one expensive 1.6 ounces!

I think it has less shock then the faktor.  Still not sure its worth the extra coin.

I thought it was worth it. Then again I'm a firm believer in "buy once, cry once". I haven't had one moment of regret for spending $1400 on the bare Carbon Spyder Turbo

[RadSav]

I thought it was worth it. Then again I'm a firm believer in "buy once, cry once". I haven't had one moment of regret for spending $1400 on the bare Carbon Spyder Turbo

But it's so dang ugly!!    You'd think for $1,400 it would come with some lipstick and a paper bag.

[Dip-Zag]

Shot both last week... Decided on the spyder over the faktor in 2.3 seconds. I can't wait for it to arrive!!!

[MikeC]

I just ordered the Faktor 34 yesterday.  This will be my first bow.  I can't wait! I ordered it in Blackout with the American Heritage design. I was debating between this bow and the CPXL and then had the opportunity to get the Hoyt at a pretty sizable discount so it made the decision much easier.

[RadSav]

The price tag just makes it feel like it   And that one expensive 1.6 ounces!

I think it has less shock then the faktor.  Still not sure its worth the extra coin.

Wow!  I didn't notice any difference between the two bows I shot.  I think the power of suggestion goes a long way with some folks when shooting a status logo.  Neither had much hand shock unless comparing to a center pivot bow.  I felt the Faktor balanced much better, besides looking better at a better price, so I gave it the edge.  Now in the Spyder 30 compared to the Faktor 30 I felt the Spyder might have had the balance edge.  The new cam is very nice.

Going off thread topic - On target bows I was blown away with the new Pro Edge Elite.  That's probably the best short target bow I have shot to date.  Hoyt knocked it out of the park on that one! 

[RadSav]

I just ordered the Faktor 34 yesterday.  This will be my first bow.

Wow!  Like buying a Cadillac CTS for your first car...NICE!  

[elkhunter1977]

I was going to buy the Faktor, shot liked it , tried the carbon spyder 34 and fell in love! I don't think I've ever enjoyed shooting a bow as much as I do the carbon spyder. They were both nice to shoot and although the price was so much more then the Faktor IMO it was well worth it. Both are great bows!

[xXLojackXx]

I thought it was worth it. Then again I'm a firm believer in "buy once, cry once". I haven't had one moment of regret for spending $1400 on the bare Carbon Spyder Turbo

But it's so dang ugly!!    You'd think for $1,400 it would come with some lipstick and a paper bag.

Don't listen to Rad, he just likes looks over performance   

[RadSav]

I thought it was worth it. Then again I'm a firm believer in "buy once, cry once". I haven't had one moment of regret for spending $1400 on the bare Carbon Spyder Turbo

But it's so dang ugly!!    You'd think for $1,400 it would come with some lipstick and a paper bag.

Don't listen to Rad, he just likes looks over performance   

And yet every bow I have has higher brace height, increased stability and greater speed ratings than Hoyt.  Hmmm, how can that be? 

You have to admit the Carbon Spyder does look like they did that run over with truck thing when a Carbon Element's epoxy was still wet.  If that bow had any other logo than a Hoyt or Mathews Archerytalk would be splitting at the seams with thread after thread about how Bear, Obsession, Elite, PSE, Bowtech, etc. would be going out of business for building a twisted wreck of trash carbon tubes.  Hoyt doubles the price, drops another million dollars in advertising and tells everyone it's cool...and all the following sheep say. "Ooooo!  The Emperor's robe is beautiful!"



This link is for those too young to know Hans Christian Andersen's cautionary tale.  Read "PLOT paragraph" 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

[DRENALINJUNKIE]

It sounds like you have a problem with Hoyt? Its like you didn't get invited to a birthday party or something.

[xXLojackXx]

What are you shooting? Not out of argument, just curious of this holy grail bow you speak of.

[xXLojackXx]

It sounds like you have a problem with Hoyt? Its like you didn't get invited to a birthday party or something.

   if he tells himself enough times that Hoyt is all about advertising, he'll start believing it. After all, that's the only way they've survived over the last 35 years. 

[hughjorgan]

What are you shooting? Not out of argument, just curious of this holy grail bow you speak of.

I think he shoots a bow wreck...

[RadSav]

I have about a dozen bows I shoot regularly.  All different brands including Hoyt.  I usually rotate about half of those each year when new models come available.  All shoot great, all are fun.  I only have three bows that retail for more than $1,000.  A few are only about $500 MSRP.  Not a single one remains with a 6" brace height!!  My newest Hoyt is the second most expensive and second from the bottom in regards to speed.  Only bow I currently have that shoots slower is a five year old Bear!

I refuse to "Shoot" for anyone.  That allows me to evaluate performance and values better without clouded judgment.  There are a lot of very good things about Hoyt bows.  But just because it's got a status logo doesn't mean it gets evaluated any different than any other bow I test.  It is a rare occasion I ever say something bad about Hoyt bows other than they are too expensive for what you get and the Spyder is uglier than a car wreck (Which oddly enough resemble nearly the same shape ) I am a big fan of the newer Bowtech Experience.  But even it has reached the threshold where price for performance is out of balance with what others offer.  Though it produces Hoyt Turbo Speeds while maintaining a 7" brace height.

I do refuse to publicly shoot Hoyt due to my experience in how they treat their non-celebrity customers.  But that has nothing to do with the positive and/or negative things I would say about a bows performance.  Or any other brand of bow for that matter.  My wife does like Hoyt and I have no problem with getting her whatever she likes.  And I expect she is going to be shooting the ugly bow this season!  Though even she openly admits, "That's one damn ugly bow!"

[RadSav]

I think he shoots a bow wreck...

I did shoot a Bowtech Experience more than any of the others last year.  The reason for that is I went into the season shooting it better than all the rest that accepted two piece quivers.  I did take two spring turkeys with a Bear single cam and my WY antelope with a Martin Alien.

[xXLojackXx]

There are a lot of very good things about Hoyt bows.

I knew I'd get it out of you    now you're being logical

[hughjorgan]

I think he shoots a bow wreck...

I did shoot a Bowtech Experience more than any of the others last year.  The reason for that is I went into the season shooting it better than all the rest that accepted two piece quivers.  I did take two spring turkeys with a Bear single cam and my WY antelope with a Martin Alien.

Nothing wrong with that, used to shoot a bowtech my self, until I dealt with their customer service. Lots of great bow manufactures to choose from if you don't like one thing a company does just try another. It's all fun no matter what.

[RadSav]

There are a lot of very good things about Hoyt bows.

I knew I'd get it out of you    now you're being logical

Didn't I imply the same with Response #3, #11 and #12? 

Seems I can say all kinds of nice things about Hoyt bows and all anyone ever remembers is when I call one slow or ugly.  And when you compare them to most of the competition, especially the Carbon Spyder, slow and ugly is a logical conclusion.   

[RadSav]

Nothing wrong with that, used to shoot a bowtech my self, until I dealt with their customer service. Lots of great bow manufactures to choose from if you don't like one thing a company does just try another. It's all fun no matter what.

The past three years Bowtech service has treated me very well.  But, the Pro Shop is for general consumers.  Their warranty department is for Dealers only.  If an end consumer wants to try and go around their Dealer support system and talk directly with Warranty things can sometimes get a little heated.  As is the case with nearly all of the different bow manufacturers I have dealt with.  Follow the rules and procedures and things usually go smoothly, in my experience anyway.

[hughjorgan]

Nothing wrong with that, used to shoot a bowtech my self, until I dealt with their customer service. Lots of great bow manufactures to choose from if you don't like one thing a company does just try another. It's all fun no matter what.

The past three years Bowtech service has treated me very well.  But, the Pro Shop is for general consumers.  Their warranty department is for Dealers only.  If an end consumer wants to try and go around their Dealer support system and talk directly with Warranty things can sometimes get a little heated.  As is the case with nearly all of the different bow manufacturers I have dealt with.  Follow the rules and procedures and things usually go smoothly, in my experience anyway.

I took my bow to the dealer to take care of warranty work and the warranty department actually took it upon themselves to call me and they were rather rude. Over a 20 dollar part they chose to for go my business in the future, which is fine I suppose. Do that to enough people and your business will suffer.

[RadSav]

I took my bow to the dealer to take care of warranty work and the warranty department actually took it upon themselves to call me and they were rather rude. Over a 20 dollar part they chose to for go my business in the future, which is fine I suppose. Do that to enough people and your business will suffer.

Wow!  That's a funky situation.  Not sure I have ever heard of a bow manufacture calling the end consumer when a pro shop was taking care of business.  Did the dealer give your personal information or did they take it from warranty registration?  I'd definitely write a strongly worded message or letter - to my dealer and to Bowtech. 

Negative feedback is often the most important as a manufacturer.  I know around here suck up's go in one ear and out the other.  But we address complaints VERY seriously.  Especially when you figure for every complaint we hear about there are probably thirty we don't hear about.  Hard for a torpedo to find it's target if there is no sonar feedback to help it change course in the right direction.

[hughjorgan]

I took my bow to the dealer to take care of warranty work and the warranty department actually took it upon themselves to call me and they were rather rude. Over a 20 dollar part they chose to for go my business in the future, which is fine I suppose. Do that to enough people and your business will suffer.

Wow!  That's a funky situation.  Not sure I have ever heard of a bow manufacture calling the end consumer when a pro shop was taking care of business.  Did the dealer give your personal information or did they take it from warranty registration?  I'd definitely write a strongly worded message or letter - to my dealer and to Bowtech. 

Negative feedback is often the most important as a manufacturer.  I know around here suck up's go in one ear and out the other.  But we address complaints VERY seriously.  Especially when you figure for every complaint we hear about there are probably thirty we don't hear about.  Hard for a torpedo to find it's target if there is no sonar feedback to help it change course in the right direction.

This was four years ago, if I remember right the dealer gave them my number. The dealer is no longer in business. Definitely learned my lesson about buying a bow from a reputable dealer that will take care of their customers. In the end I was able to get the bow part warrantied thanks to Corey at XXX Archery and put back together by Larry at Sportsmens warehouse. Both guys are stand up individuals.

[wariner87]

Question: should I be mindful about where I purchase my new hoyt?

[D-Rock425]

Question: should I be mindful about where I purchase my new hoyt?

buy it from a shop you trust to set it up for you.

[wariner87]

 What shop would you recommend in my area?

[RadSav]

Question: should I be mindful about where I purchase my new hoyt?

Depends on how important service after the sale is to you.  Hoyt will service your bow through any Hoyt dealer whether you purchased it through that shop or not.  But there are a lot of things that can go haywire with a bow that do not require it to be sent back to the manufacturer.  Those services will cost you money unless you are working with the shop you purchased from.  And even then there are no guarantees that shop will consider the issue a free support issue.

Myself, I research and chose the best doctor for myself, the best plumber for my house, the best electrician for my business and the best mechanic for my truck.  If I'm willing to do those things why wouldn't I want the very best pro-shop available to take care of my over priced bow

[RadSav]

Fletch Setter gets great marks for prices and deals.  But, I've heard mixed reviews about service issues.  Take that for what it's worth as I have not been there personally and do not know them.  I do know the best service related reviews and the guys I know well in Western Washington are Riverside Archery in Mount Vernon.  But 75 miles each way could be a little much for the average guy!

[wariner87]

Thanks , Radsav You're Always Going Above And Beyond When It Comes To Answering Questions.
Does anyone here have any experiences with great northwest archery?

[wariner87]

Is the lack of response , because of bad experiences?

[RadSav]

I would expect it's because it's Sunday!  Threads tend to move slow over the weekend.  Guys like to waste their employers time, not their own

[scottcrb]

Just stay away from Hoyt dealers in the Mont lake terrace area.

[hughjorgan]

Thanks , Radsav You're Always Going Above And Beyond When It Comes To Answering Questions.
Does anyone here have any experiences with great northwest archery?

Doug at great northwest archery is a good guy. He will take care of all your needs, tuning, setup of your bow, etc. I bought my last two bows from him, always had great service.

[wariner87]

I ended up getting to faktor turbo. It was worth every penny.

[MikeC]

I ended up ge. tting to faktor turbo. It was worth every penny.

Nice looking rig!
I picked up my Faktor 34 last week and haven't been able to set it up yet. Chomping at the bit

[wariner87]

You'll fall in love with it immediately,  assuming you haven't already.   Enjoy your new bow , brother .

[hughjorgan]

I ended up getting to faktor turbo. It was worth every penny.

  Nice bow right there. Did you end up going to Great Northwest Archery or some where else?

[wariner87]

 I ended up going to GNW . Fletch setter didn't have it in stock.