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That area has been a case study for years. The moose and wolf populations have fluctuated and neither has disappeared. So much for the predator pit.
And I don't think I've ever seen where they even got close to any kind of steady-state 'balance'. It has been up-down-up-down. A few years ago they were really worried about the moose--wolves killed too many calves and the herd was aging--approaching a collapse.
I heard that pd. They had record (near record ?) ice formation on the Great Lakes this year. Half was still frozen in late April allowing wolves to move around. They had at least one leave the island and it died on the mainland.
Quote from: snowpack on May 04, 2014, 11:18:10 AMI heard that pd. They had record (near record ?) ice formation on the Great Lakes this year. Half was still frozen in late April allowing wolves to move around. They had at least one leave the island and it died on the mainland.The bigger concern will be how many potentially crossed the ice into the lower peninsula. The out of control white tail population there would feed a big wolf population.
Quote from: snowpack on May 04, 2014, 10:49:04 AMAnd I don't think I've ever seen where they even got close to any kind of steady-state 'balance'. It has been up-down-up-down. A few years ago they were really worried about the moose--wolves killed too many calves and the herd was aging--approaching a collapse.I think Malthusian behavior is typical of both populations
Quote from: AspenBud on May 05, 2014, 08:29:15 AMQuote from: snowpack on May 04, 2014, 11:18:10 AMI heard that pd. They had record (near record ?) ice formation on the Great Lakes this year. Half was still frozen in late April allowing wolves to move around. They had at least one leave the island and it died on the mainland.The bigger concern will be how many potentially crossed the ice into the lower peninsula. The out of control white tail population there would feed a big wolf population. Do those people believe the WT populations are out of control Aspen, or is this your opinion?
Quote from: Elkaholic daWg on May 05, 2014, 08:58:34 AMQuote from: AspenBud on May 05, 2014, 08:29:15 AMQuote from: snowpack on May 04, 2014, 11:18:10 AMI heard that pd. They had record (near record ?) ice formation on the Great Lakes this year. Half was still frozen in late April allowing wolves to move around. They had at least one leave the island and it died on the mainland.The bigger concern will be how many potentially crossed the ice into the lower peninsula. The out of control white tail population there would feed a big wolf population. Do those people believe the WT populations are out of control Aspen, or is this your opinion?If you go deer hunting in the lower peninsula of Michigan and don't put at least one into the freezer (play the seasons and tags right and you can take home at least five) you either are a compete newb, don't know what you're doing, or aren't trying very hard. They were even allowing deer with spots to get shot back in 2011 during the early season. Washington is a deer desert by comparison. The state has one of the largest deer populations in the country. Seriously, the DNR has had virtually unlimited doe tags available there for years and they still have plenty.The UP is an entirely different story, though even that is relative. Different habitat, different agriculture, lots more wolves.
Quote from: AspenBud on May 05, 2014, 02:29:00 PMQuote from: Elkaholic daWg on May 05, 2014, 08:58:34 AMQuote from: AspenBud on May 05, 2014, 08:29:15 AMQuote from: snowpack on May 04, 2014, 11:18:10 AMI heard that pd. They had record (near record ?) ice formation on the Great Lakes this year. Half was still frozen in late April allowing wolves to move around. They had at least one leave the island and it died on the mainland.The bigger concern will be how many potentially crossed the ice into the lower peninsula. The out of control white tail population there would feed a big wolf population. Do those people believe the WT populations are out of control Aspen, or is this your opinion?If you go deer hunting in the lower peninsula of Michigan and don't put at least one into the freezer (play the seasons and tags right and you can take home at least five) you either are a compete newb, don't know what you're doing, or aren't trying very hard. They were even allowing deer with spots to get shot back in 2011 during the early season. Washington is a deer desert by comparison. The state has one of the largest deer populations in the country. Seriously, the DNR has had virtually unlimited doe tags available there for years and they still have plenty.The UP is an entirely different story, though even that is relative. Different habitat, different agriculture, lots more wolves.Maybe Michigan DNR needs WDFW to manage their deer etc. for a few years. You know protect predators and dump wolves all over the state.