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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2014, 05:33:52 PM »
Where's BH45?
Right here ! And this is why this state is the way it is ....30% see it the way I would and the other 70 % see it the way H20 sees it .... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: just saying H20 ..Things need extreme measures at this point ...just think how much we have lost in the last few years ..and it is continuing without anyone looking back ....Something needs to happen to get some attention .... :tup:

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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2014, 05:40:38 PM »
It was Steelhead Moses:

In the voice of Charleton Heston...


"Director Anderson, let my steelhead GO!"
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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2014, 05:45:56 PM »
It was Steelhead Moses:

In the voice of Charleton Heston...


"Director Anderson, let my steelhead GO!"
:chuckle: :chuckle: That sums her up  :tup:

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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2014, 05:46:41 PM »
It would be sweet if it was found that it was done by one of the few dfw leo employees that is for sportsman themselves,That would show a sign of hope lol.
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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2014, 06:19:56 PM »
I applaud this legal or not, these fish were going to be thrown away, anyways, along with all the smolts in other hatchery's. its a statement that needed to be made. I'm quite tired of all this wild fish activism, its out of control and frankly these days, as much as i hate to admit it, i view wildfish with the same regards as dogfish. i really want nothing to do with them, and am not excited anymore upon hooking one anymore. i will never be able to catch and keep a 30lb Puget king, although i have let two go near that, only so that indians can net them and let them rot in the sun.  i simply want to get a wild fish salmon or steelhead off my hook as fast as i can and get it, the heck away from me. i feel sad admitting this, but it is what it is. its clear that the days of old, are gone, and will never be back as long as the activists from the dept of wildlife, run things.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2014, 06:28:46 PM by GEARHEAD »

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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2014, 06:35:20 PM »
Keep up the good work "Hatchery Bandits"!
« Last Edit: May 13, 2014, 06:42:36 PM by steeleywhopper »
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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2014, 06:43:37 PM »
 :tup:

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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2014, 06:48:46 PM »
Just in case some that are reading this thread do not know what this is all about.



http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20140511/OPINION03/140519957


Department of Fish and Wildlife wrong to give in to bullies



Salmon swim upstream. The state caved to a bully when it agreed to a deal over salmon, Kirk Pearson argues.
 

Sen. Kirk Pearson
 





By Sen. Kirk Pearson

Most of us have to deal with bullying at some point in our lives. The key is to recognize the type of bullying you face and make sure that you don't respond the way the bully wants. Most of all, you should never give in to intimidation or threats, lest you plan to hand your milk money over on a regular basis.
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It's a lesson the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife apparently has yet to learn. The agency claims its mission includes providing sustainable fish and wildlife recreational and commercial opportunities, yet it recently slashed fishing opportunities by cutting a deal with Wild Fish Conservancy — a bully threatening the state with lawsuits.
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On March 31 the conservancy sued the department, claiming the state's early-winter hatchery-steelhead program posed a threat to wild steelhead, salmon and bull-trout recovery efforts. DFW denied the accuracy of the claim, stating it has taken many steps based on current science to ensure its hatchery operations protect wild steelhead and other protected fish species.
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In spite of that initial resistance, DFW decided it was easier to appease the bully and eliminate the threat of the lawsuit than it was to continue to fight the lawsuit while also facing federal permit delays. DFW agreed to drastically reduce the release of hatchery-raised young steelhead into Puget Sound rivers: instead of 900,000 it will be 180,000 (an 80 percent cut), and no early winter steelhead will be released into Puget Sound rivers other than the Skykomish in 2014.
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The move comes at a high price. These juvenile steelhead represent about two-thirds of all hatchery steelhead produced by DFW hatcheries in the region, through a state investment of $1 million. It has also been reported that the harvest of these vital resources would generate $7 million to $10 million of economic activity, in addition to the important recreational and cultural benefits full utilization of these hatchery fish would provide Washingtonians.
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Without these fish, our communities will see an instant economic effect, as fishermen will no longer be patronizing local businesses and millions of dollars in sales of licenses, gear, fuel and supplies will be lost.
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While I understand the need for continuing analysis and improvement of hatchery operations over time, abruptly abandoning the vast majority of the planned steelhead release in the face of this lawsuit is not the answer.
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By giving in to bullying, DFW has created an unequitable and unacceptable situation for sport fishermen, tribes and our state's economy as a whole.
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True, the federal court agreement will keep the bully at bay for the next 2 ½ years at most, preventing the Wild Fish Conservancy from suing DFW over its Puget Sound hatchery programs during that time. But like any bully, it is likely that the group will simply resume the pursuit of its agenda by threat and lawsuit once that window has closed. And what is to prevent others from seeing the success of this tactic and launching similar bullying strategies of their own?
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Forcing taxpayers to pay tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees will only encourage extremist organizations, like the WFC, to continue to sue the state again and again, until they reach their ultimate goal — the elimination of all fish hatcheries.
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We can't have government by lawsuit and intimidation. Nor should we allow a relatively small special interest group to control public policy for the entire state.
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We've already seen a similar tactic used in a case involving the U.S. Forest Service fire lookout on Green Mountain in the Darrington area. In that case another one of these bullies sued the federal government to try forcing the removal of the lookout. They too might have been successful if the tragic Oso mudslide hadn't prompted swift federal action from President Barack Obama and others.
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In addition to the future effect of the state backing down in this case, there are still several other questions about this deal that need to be answered:
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What is the economic effect that will result from the 12-year agreement on the Skagit River system?
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Beyond the Skagit, what other river systems are affected? What will be the economic effect resulting from the agreement on each of these systems?
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Under this agreement the tribes, who are the co-managers of our fisheries, lose out on the economic and cultural benefits these fish bring. Were their concerns considered, and were they consulted, prior to this deal being reached?
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What justification is there for the state to pay litigation expenses to the conservancy or any other private organization? Couldn't those funds be better used for education, serving our most vulnerable citizens or protecting the environment?
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Statewide, how many fishing licenses will no longer be sold, given the effectual end of these fisheries?
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These questions point to one undeniable truth: DFW was wrong to roll over to the bully, when the department could have instead stood its ground, continued to work with the National Marine Fisheries Services on a long-term solution, and kept this vital resource for our community and the economy on track.
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Sen. Kirk Pearson, R-Monroe, represents the 39th Legislative District and is the Chair of the Washington State Senate Natural Resources & Parks Committee.

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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2014, 06:57:08 PM »
I wonder what charges would be filed if someone were arrested for this?

Any guesses?
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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2014, 07:15:04 PM »
Burglary, vandalism.  :dunno:


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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2014, 07:49:04 PM »
Probably some wildlife charges too  :dunno:

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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2014, 07:59:47 PM »
Just think folks,,the ability NOT to catch steelhead is what our fishing license are paying for   :IBCOOL:   Dang I wish they would increase the fees some more  :IBCOOL:

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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2014, 08:30:52 PM »
Just a thought. What actions do you think will be taken by the state. Will they attempt to eradicate these fish before they outmigrate? Rotenone? Nets? Could this be an inside job  perped by wild fish advocates to sour sporties image. Maybe those fish will were really just buried in the woods and lies were spread. I hate playing the conspiracy game, but I do remember something similar with white bass and sauger on the Missouri many years ago. Don't torch me yet!

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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2014, 08:39:59 PM »
Just a thought. What actions do you think will be taken by the state. Will they attempt to eradicate these fish before they outmigrate? Rotenone?

I don't think Rote will work, and if it did, too much collateral damage to other species.

Just my guess

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Re: Police seek steelhead bandits who released 25,000 fish
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2014, 12:23:11 PM »
Just think folks,,the ability NOT to catch steelhead is what our fishing license are paying for   :IBCOOL:   Dang I wish they would increase the fees some more  :IBCOOL:

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I'm trying to think optimistic and long term with this whole hatchery closure thing. We never should of had hatcheries in the first place. It may take a few years but the few remaining wild steelhead if left alone with the habitat restoration they are getting should come back. It may take a decade or two but wouldn't it be worth it to have real steelhead in historic numbers again some day? These hatchery fish are just that and their only destination should of been in a lake.

The 25,000 steelhead that were released will most likely not be open to be fished for anyways. So if disgruntled sportsmen did this it will make us look bad in the long run.
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