One good reason Challenge

[RadSav]

As of right now, that's correct Rad. Not just Can am, ANY Atv/Utv's that have been equipped to be street legal are not allowed on FS roads. They can legally be operated in many county and city jurisdictions with posted speed limits 35mph or less. In my area this includes, Chelan County, Douglas County, and within the city limits of East Wenatchee. I can LEGALLY ride right down into town to get groceries, go out to eat, etc.

Huh!  I thought as long as it was a licensed street legal machine it was ok.  Well, except for private property lands like Weyco.  You do know all those ATV operators are all a bunch of hooligans anyway, don't you?   Gotta keep the riffraff out!

[NOCK NOCK]

All motor vehicles must have liability insurance to operate on the states roads and highways. ALL. Call the DMV and ask.

Still Wrong my friend, You need to research better before you post. Maybe these people will help you understand.

Washington State office of the Insurance Commissioner
1-800-562-6900-ask for Property & Casualty

PS: "motor vehicles" are not the same as "motorcycles" or "OHV/ORV's"  I believe the meaning of these terms is why your not understanding. Research,research,research

[washelkhunter]

You're right, they are not reqd to carry liability insurance. Hard to believe a state like ours permits that. I suppose you have to sue the estate to collect damages.

[JLS]

It has nothing to do with suing the state.  Where do you come up with some of this stuff?

[JLS]

Nock Nock,

Although I don't own an ATV and probably never will, I cannot and won't try to give you a reason as to why they are not allowed on Forest Service roads.  In fact, I think they should be so long as they are licensed and the operator has a valid driver's license.

[snowpack]

It has nothing to do with suing the state.  Where do you come up with some of this stuff?

Estate not state.

[JLS]

It has nothing to do with suing the state.  Where do you come up with some of this stuff?

Estate not state.

Ooops, my bad

[blackveltbowhunter]

   I can't give you a reason. And to be honest I think they should be allowed on any forest service road/state forest rd open to vehicles. Along with trails etc.. . I have no skin in the game so to speak, and am not an atv owner. I do have a problem with the excuses that you are pointing out NOCK, and view them as just that. An excuse. Truth be told, I think it comes down to a simple enforcement issue. The state, forest service whatever cannot enforce the irresponsible folks, so they shut it down for ALL. Typical of government, its touted as being for SAFETY. (The dumbest word ever, also known as I get to tell you to do whatever I want because it in the issue of safety ). In my experience very few folks ever get caught, and many that do, were honest mistakes. IMO not deserving of ruining someones life over.

   

[NOCK NOCK]

You may be right blackvelvet, with the enforcement idea. Guilty until proven innocent with the FS. This is the exact reason we all need to learn to share. If they can't enforce one user group, what's to stop them from going after say motorcycles on the FS roads next?

I am curious as to what you call excuses? Excuses are people generalizing that all atv'rs ride irresponsibly(off road & tearing it up) Facts are that all user groups have some that are not responsible.
If we as the "general public" continue to let the "bad apples" actions dictate how us the "good people" are to use our forest, soon only the "greenies" will have access.

[blackveltbowhunter]

 ... I re-read my post and the phrase is poorly written. I was trying to say that the reasons you bulleted in your OP are excuses the "entities" (insert government here), use to circumvent the real issue. Which IMO is that they would rather be lazy and close it to all atvs, than actually step up to the plate and patrol as needed. 

   I understand this is a multi faceted issue, where does the money come from? what kind of penalties? where does the line get drawn? etc....

   

   

   

[NOCK NOCK]

Gotcha BV,
As an example, Douglas county has approved use of street legalized atv's on their county roads for 1 year. At the end of that year, they will analyze how it worked and decide whether or not to continue allowing them.
I feel this is fair, Innocent until proven guilty.
As far as enforcement, Why does most everyone feel we need more Leo's on the roads just because quads would be utilizing them? Why does this type of vehicle require more enforcement? Any average motorcycle rider could take their bike anywhere a quad could go, and definitely more places (I have seen many roads closed  with boulders-bikes will fit through, quads wont).  I don't buy the enforcement excuse. IMO

[kirkl]

Naches knows all cause his mommy works for the forrest service. One of the biggest cry babys on here.