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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2014, 09:46:06 PM »
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I Say No to the hell NO!  >:(
We think this ok next will be something else, can't believe people truly think this ok?
It's coming from HSUS For dang sakes the biggest anti hunting group out there!
Nothing like divide and conquer huh?
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2014, 10:23:48 PM »
This is an issue hunters should be supporting and taking the lead on.
:chuckle: yeah, because their one 150gr bullet they shoot every year while hunting actually has the potential to do so much damage to wildlife........oh brother!
Its not a big game issue its a small game one. Think about all the guys shooting prairie dogs and ground squirrels. All those carcasses are left to be scavenged and rot. A lot of lead fragments are being taken up by scavengers and birds. It starts to be a compounded problem.
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Small game and birds.

I thought lead bird shot was already banned.
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2014, 10:26:18 PM »
This is an issue hunters should be supporting and taking the lead on.
:chuckle: yeah, because their one 150gr bullet they shoot every year while hunting actually has the potential to do so much damage to wildlife........oh brother!
Its not a big game issue its a small game one. Think about all the guys shooting prairie dogs and ground squirrels. All those carcasses are left to be scavenged and rot. A lot of lead fragments are being taken up by scavengers and birds. It starts to be a compounded problem.
:yeah:
Small game and birds.

I thought lead bird shot was already banned.
  I Was Shot In The Knee With A Pellet Gun When I Was9  I carried That Pellet for Eleven Years.  Nothing Wrong With Me.....  Wait A Minute..  IM Am As Messed Up As They Come! :chuckle:
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2014, 10:35:00 PM »
This is an issue hunters should be supporting and taking the lead on.
:chuckle: yeah, because their one 150gr bullet they shoot every year while hunting actually has the potential to do so much damage to wildlife........oh brother!
Its not a big game issue its a small game one. Think about all the guys shooting prairie dogs and ground squirrels. All those carcasses are left to be scavenged and rot. A lot of lead fragments are being taken up by scavengers and birds. It starts to be a compounded problem.
:yeah:
Small game and birds.

I thought lead bird shot was already banned.
  I Was Shot In The Knee With A Pellet Gun When I Was9  I carried That Pellet for Eleven Years.  Nothing Wrong With Me.....  Wait A Minute..  IM Am As Messed Up As They Come! :chuckle:
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2014, 11:54:28 PM »
Growing up shooting a single shot/break open pellet gun, I always carried a mouth full of .177 cal pellets ready to deploy at a seconds notice if a second shot was needed as it usually was. Can't even fathom how many hundreds I swallowed while running after squirrels etc thru the woods.
Can't really say I've been affected or maybe I'm all screwed up like Sled, LOL.

I wouldn't support banning lead bullets for the reasons the Humane Society is using.
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2014, 01:46:40 AM »
Bullshat!  >:(

I have a rather large supply of lead hunting ammo.   I will have to consider risking a ticket before just throwing it all out.

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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2014, 06:27:17 AM »
:bdid:
I Say No to the hell NO!  >:(
We think this ok next will be something else, can't believe people truly think this ok?
It's coming from HSUS For dang sakes the biggest anti hunting group out there!
Nothing like divide and conquer huh?
 :bash:

 :yeah:

Give an inch now and they will come back and try and take a mile later.
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2014, 02:29:03 PM »

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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2014, 02:37:44 PM »
Lead is highly toxic and detrimental to the wildlife we are supposed to be championing. If banning lead bullets will help the wildlife of the land then we should be supporting that.

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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2014, 03:27:10 PM »
Lead is highly toxic and detrimental to the wildlife we are supposed to be championing. If banning lead bullets will help the wildlife of the land then we should be supporting that.
Lmao, this is the kind of nanny, do gooder, BS mentality and comments that cracks me up. All of you wildlife "champions" pick the next heart string subject you can BS the general head in the sand public with, in your wildly exaggerated scenario's, just to further your real agenda's.

 There are so many other "toxic" issues you can be addressing that have far more realistic scenarios and impact, than a bird somehow ingesting poison from the lead bullet that passed through my buck 5 years ago. :chuckle:

 How about addressing the amount of oil or coolant leaking out of the vehicles on the roads as a example? Its far more realistic to suggest toxins from that are harming wildlife than a 150 grain bullet in the dirt somewhere..........lmao! :chuckle:
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2014, 03:33:06 PM »
It makes sense for waterfowl because the pellets are concentrated in the ponds. This would have no positive effects in the woods where there may be no more than a few bullets per sq mile. Ridiculous.
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2014, 03:37:37 PM »
I tend to agree this is a reaction to a problem that is not really a problem in the vast majority of places, including Washington.

Here's an interesting read, however: http://www.azgfd.gov/w_c/california_condor_lead.shtml
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2014, 03:46:04 PM »
It makes sense for waterfowl because the pellets are concentrated in the ponds. This would have no positive effects in the woods where there may be no more than a few bullets per sq mile. Ridiculous.
Agreed, I do not have a issue banning lead shot.
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Re: Traditional ammo ban on federal lands
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2014, 03:47:23 PM »
I think most of the ammo bans only apply to hunters.  I think in many of those areas you can still go shoot 5,000 rounds of lead shot at sporting clays over a duck pond.  Or empty tens of thousands of lead rifle bullets into the hillside every afternoon.

 


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