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Quote from: b23 on June 24, 2014, 01:09:23 PMAnd that is why I believe it's more of a philosophical view than a clear cut case of bullet failure.I hear the EXACT same thing with regard to Berger bullets, EXCEPT, their bullets are intended to do the exact opposite. Berger wants their bullet to penetrate the hide then go off like a grenade inside the animal creating a very large wound channel for maximum bleed out.IMO, the people that prefer maximum penetration, often, claim Berger type bullets, that are intended to create very large wound channels, have bullet failure because they have considerably less retained weight and the people on the other side of the fence call foul when bullets don't expand very much but in all actuality, BOTH, bullets are doing exactly what they were designed to do. Whether you call it bullet failure or not, is likely more dependent on which point of view you buy into versus another. Like you said, the bullet exited the barrel and you recovered the animal, how can anyone say the bullet failed to do its job.Agree. 2nd easiest recovery ever for me. However, I'd be happy to sit around a fire and have a spirited debate about bullet performance and "to have failed or not to have failed".
And that is why I believe it's more of a philosophical view than a clear cut case of bullet failure.I hear the EXACT same thing with regard to Berger bullets, EXCEPT, their bullets are intended to do the exact opposite. Berger wants their bullet to penetrate the hide then go off like a grenade inside the animal creating a very large wound channel for maximum bleed out.IMO, the people that prefer maximum penetration, often, claim Berger type bullets, that are intended to create very large wound channels, have bullet failure because they have considerably less retained weight and the people on the other side of the fence call foul when bullets don't expand very much but in all actuality, BOTH, bullets are doing exactly what they were designed to do. Whether you call it bullet failure or not, is likely more dependent on which point of view you buy into versus another. Like you said, the bullet exited the barrel and you recovered the animal, how can anyone say the bullet failed to do its job.
As of right now I think I'm going to try the 130 gr Barnes and see how they shoot, I like that they have high b.c. And will hold together and theoretically penetrate well even on longer shots. My only concern is getting them to open up enough on those long shots where velocity has dropped off.
If it were me and I was in a situation where a .270 Win and factory ammo were to be used. I would opt for a 130gr bullet with good construction and a good BC. That would be a 130gr Swift Scirocco with a BC of .450Here's your daisy. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/536536/remington-premier-ammunition-270-winchester-130-grain-swift-scirocco-polymer-tip-box-of-20
Quote from: Biggerhammer on June 24, 2014, 06:51:49 PMIf it were me and I was in a situation where a .270 Win and factory ammo were to be used. I would opt for a 130gr bullet with good construction and a good BC. That would be a 130gr Swift Scirocco with a BC of .450Here's your daisy. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/536536/remington-premier-ammunition-270-winchester-130-grain-swift-scirocco-polymer-tip-box-of-20is there much difference between the accubonds and the swift bullet?