Wolf in klickitat

[pianoman9701]

He's certainly that, Special T, but he'll cry about you saying so and you'll be censored for saying so. He's incapable of discussing anything without condescension or taking the side of the WDFW. Some of us understand the reasons why.

[idahohuntr]

Your condensention is duly noted.

What i Mean is that We cannot request specifics onthe details of the  wolves. IE how many does the state have collard, What is the general area of opertaion of said wolves.

It has been repeated on here MANY times Conversations where some one has seen a tagged animal, Wolf griz etc, and they were  blown off until they brought up the tag.

If you can get your FOI request for that info processed please share how you got it done. It has been tried and was not approved.

I think YOU are a shill.

Call Danny Mortorello - (360) 902-2521.  I bet he will give you the exact number of wolves collared in WA right now, and can probably answer any question you have about general areas of various packs.  What they can't do is give you very specific information on current wolf locations.  Other than that...I'm sure he will tell you whatever you want to know.  It is disingenuous to suggest wdfw hides wolf information.

You can think what you want about calling me names. I can understand how it makes it easier for you to try and dismiss what I tell you because you can't do it with facts or logic...name calling always starts on these threads when folks have exasperated their intellectual abilities...it is really quite old and pathetic.

[idahohuntr]

He's certainly that, Special T, but he'll cry about you saying so and you'll be censored for saying so. He's incapable of discussing anything without condescension or taking the side of the WDFW. Some of us understand the reasons why.

I'm incapable of discussing anything without condescension says the guy who gets censored for name calling   

Why don't you stick with your earlier post and just help correct fellow hunters from repeating lies about wolf introductions in Washington? 

[Bigshooter]

I don't believe for a second that WDFW has ever dumped a wolf anywhere in WA.  Why would they?  What would they gain from it?  I know what would come from the negative side of it and it would not be good.

[grundy53]

Come on guys. Act like adults.

[Special T]

"A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization."

YOU likely have not read very many of my posts, and I have read nearly all of yours. I don't call names or puff up my chest. I try and call it as i see it.

[idahohuntr]

"A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization."

YOU likely have not read very many of my posts, and I have read nearly all of yours. I don't call names or puff up my chest. I try and call it as i see it.

This is where your name calling falls apart though Special T - I call it how I see it as well and because you disagree with me and apparently have no facts to respond you have to resort to name calling and false accusations.  I realize when I defend WDFW or other state agencies it is very unpopular around here...but I have no interest in trying to be the popular guy.  I always call it how I see it...not just when its the popular thing to do. 

Your suggestion that I have some relationship with WDFW or their staff or that they use me as a "plant" is absurd and untrue.  You are not original in such a false claim but I have absolutely no ties to WDFW and certainly do not serve as any type of a "plant" for them.  Why don't we just agree to debate the topic and not focus on the individuals making the argument?  Debate the facts, evidence, policies etc...not the individuals providing the different perspectives.

So, to get back on topic...No, there is no credible evidence that WDFW ever planted wolves in Washington, and yes, Washington wolf management information is abundant and available to anyone who would like to see it...it is a very transparent program. Last, of course there are going to be wolves in/around Klickitat...call Donny...he will tell you that it is very possible/likely that a wolf could literally be spotted anywhere in the entire state of Washington.  ANYWHERE!  They are highly migratory animals and their population is expanding in WA state.

[Curly]

I just wish more wolves would get hit while crossing highways during their migration. 
 

 

[grousefether]

Once they wipe out all the other critters we might get to see some winter kill wolves

[pianoman9701]

"A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization."

YOU likely have not read very many of my posts, and I have read nearly all of yours. I don't call names or puff up my chest. I try and call it as i see it.

This is where your name calling falls apart though Special T - I call it how I see it as well and because you disagree with me and apparently have no facts to respond you have to resort to name calling and false accusations.  I realize when I defend WDFW or other state agencies it is very unpopular around here...but I have no interest in trying to be the popular guy.  I always call it how I see it...not just when its the popular thing to do. 

Your suggestion that I have some relationship with WDFW or their staff or that they use me as a "plant" is absurd and untrue.  You are not original in such a false claim but I have absolutely no ties to WDFW and certainly do not serve as any type of a "plant" for them.   Why don't we just agree to debate the topic and not focus on the individuals making the argument?  Debate the facts, evidence, policies etc...not the individuals providing the different perspectives.

So, to get back on topic...No, there is no credible evidence that WDFW ever planted wolves in Washington, and yes, Washington wolf management information is abundant and available to anyone who would like to see it...it is a very transparent program. Last, of course there are going to be wolves in/around Klickitat...call Donny...he will tell you that it is very possible/likely that a wolf could literally be spotted anywhere in the entire state of Washington.  ANYWHERE!  They are highly migratory animals and their population is expanding in WA state.

[motg9_6]

i dont think the wolves were ever wiped out in this area. there have been supposed sittings for years before they became a problem in the state. with that said the population sure grew really fast in our area without sightings of them getting here. yakima res has a pack they are watching some outside of troutlake and now above klickitat almost all at once. kinda wierd

[4fletch]

The government would not lie to us

[REHJWA]

I'm waiting on our five years to be up so we can see how much a wolf draw permit is going to cost us....  Maybe will get another hunting opportunities, I like the Klickitat area....maybe I can call one in during turkey season...

[wolfbait]

i dont think the wolves were ever wiped out in this area. there have been supposed sittings for years before they became a problem in the state. with that said the population sure grew really fast in our area without sightings of them getting here. yakima res has a pack they are watching some outside of troutlake and now above klickitat almost all at once. kinda wierd

Alberta wolves are telepathic, they know right where the USFWS and WDFW want them.

[pianoman9701]

The government would not lie to us

They lie to us about a lot. But would any of them risk their jobs, fines and/or imprisonment, pensions, and benefits to illegally move some wolves without going through the steps required by law? Not a chance. It would be against state and federal law.