Restrict Archery and ML seasons to 9 days.

[washelkhunter]

Maybe so. Something is going to have to give. The technology across all weapons are greatly reducing the chance for escapement which impacts opty for all. Couple that with increases in hunters, and reduction in habitat and something has to give. I'd gladly go to strictly primitive weapons for all in Wa. if it meant we would all have great opty and generous seasons.   

[lamrith]

I guess I just cannot understand why you would think longer modern season makes sense.
So let's limit season for a hunting format that only accounts for 13% of annual harvest to give a longer season to the format that accounts for over 79% of the harvest a longer season? 
Are you just wanting to decimate the herds so then there is no season for anyone?

[westsidehntr]

Maybe so. Something is going to have to give. The technology across all weapons are greatly reducing the chance for escapement which impacts opty for all. Couple that with increases in hunters, and reduction in habitat and something has to give. I'd gladly go to strictly primitive weapons for all in Wa. if it meant we would all have great opty and generous seasons.   

So are harvest numbers going way up? I havent checked either but I'm willing to bet you are assuming that more animals are being killed due to more technology. I highly doubt it.

[lamrith]

Don't have the time here at work to do a full dump and annual harvest annalysis, but will see about it tonight at home.

For now here is a link to the huntwa Data
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/harvest/

The root of what I am trying to say is that if you want to have a meaning full change in the harvest numbers, you need to address the method with the largest harvest numbers.  We are talking a 300% higher harvest for modern than archery and ML COMBINED.  But can't have that season any shorter or then the Modern folks would really be upset...

[Bango skank]

How many blown stalks do rifle guys have a season? None because there is no such thing,even the weekend warrior type rifle hunter can shoot anything with 500 yards,I had 5 legal bucks I could have killed with a rifle in the first 30 minutes of light on opening day of archery,I think we should be like Idaho and get a month for elk

You really believe every dingbat out there with a rifle is proficient at 500 yards?  Wow you must believe all the b.s. people claim on these forums.

[buglebrush]

I think it all evens out. In my area( NE)I think modern gets the best deer season(nothing better than mid Nov in the whitetail woods!) muzzy seems to get the best elk but its short. Archery seems to get 2nd place with both deer and elk seasons.

like stated if one method seems better in your book than use it. Personally I'd rather we all get 2 weeks but I'm not sure our heards could handle that much pressure now that there's more predators

I probably shouldn't even go here, but.....  longer seasons spread out pressure not increase it.   I hunt NE WA and Idaho.  much better experience in Idaho, but very similar harvest percentages for NE & Panhandle.   

[woodswalker]

Using this logic then modern guys should go back to iron sights and a .30-30 or maybe what was it paper patch bullets they had back in the day......

That would work...Iron sights and a 30-40 Krag with good CBs and let fly!

[Holg3107]

Another Jingles hit and run. Post up a trolling thread and never return. As noted, plenty of opportunity for all weapon choices and plenty of things to complain about for all weapon choices.

[Mxracer532]

How many blown stalks do rifle guys have a season? None because there is no such thing,even the weekend warrior type rifle hunter can shoot anything with 500 yards,I had 5 legal bucks I could have killed with a rifle in the first 30 minutes of light on opening day of archery,I think we should be like Idaho and get a month for elk

You really believe every dingbat out there with a rifle is proficient at 500 yards?  Wow you must believe all the b.s. people claim on these forums.

Yup pretty much any dingbat (CAN) be proficient at 500. Just like any nimrod can be proficient with archery equipment at say 60 yards with the right equipment and practice.  Overall far more potential to be lethal at 500 with a rifle.

[RadSav]

Apply for a multi season deer tag, nobody is denied, it seems.

So you are calling me a "Nobody", huh?  That hurts man!

 

[jasnt]

I probably shouldn't even go here, but.....  longer seasons spread out pressure not increase it.   I hunt NE WA and Idaho.  much better experience in Idaho, but very similar harvest percentages for NE & Panhandle.      yes but longer seasons can also up harvest numbers.

[RadSav]

You really believe every dingbat out there with a rifle is proficient at 500 yards?  Wow you must believe all the b.s. people claim on these forums.

Yup pretty much any dingbat (CAN) be proficient at 500. Just like any nimrod can be proficient with archery equipment at say 60 yards with the right equipment and practice.  Overall far more potential to be lethal at 500 with a rifle.

Any dingbat can shoot 500 yards.  But proficient at 500 yards is another story!  I think if you were to poll Bearpaw and all the experienced guides and former guides on here you would find differently.  I would expect less than one in 50 are proficient beyond 300 yards!  Even with a lot of practice I'm not sure that would change much at 500 yards.

I do agree that you will have a lot more failures when stalking and still hunting with the bow.  No question about that.  Last year my wife was inside 80 yards of good muledeer bucks every day of the archery season and no shots taken.  She ended up shooting the first nice buck she saw during rifle season at 225 yards.

[grundy53]

You really believe every dingbat out there with a rifle is proficient at 500 yards?  Wow you must believe all the b.s. people claim on these forums.

Yup pretty much any dingbat (CAN) be proficient at 500. Just like any nimrod can be proficient with archery equipment at say 60 yards with the right equipment and practice.  Overall far more potential to be lethal at 500 with a rifle.

Any dingbat can shoot 500 yards.  But proficient at 500 yards is another story!  I think if you were to poll Bearpaw and all the experienced guides and former guides on here you would find differently.  I would expect less than one in 50 are proficient beyond 300 yards!  Even with a lot of practice I'm not sure that would change much at 500 yards.

I do agree that you will have a lot more failures when stalking and still hunting with the bow.  No question about that.  Last year my wife was inside 80 yards of good muledeer bucks every day of the archery season and no shots taken.  She ended up shooting the first nice buck she saw during rifle season at 225 yards.

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[Dan-o]

Numbers don't lie.

the animals are killed by modern rifle.

No need to mess with archery or ML seasons.

[lamrith]

Very True Dan-o!!

Threw some numbers in spreadsheet.  I did not put any days into the past years as I do not have that information, plus the number of huntable days varies greatly by unit.  pretty clear cut that Modern takes the majority of animals on both elk and deer, but a HUGE margin.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GBald-T-SyPecyMsmeD-xO1HtmANVfyD3Av1oGm2r8A/edit?usp=sharing