Berger hunting vs target bullet ?

[huntandjeep]

Will the 168gr Berger Target bullets perform the same as the 168gr Berger hunting bullets ? I have a load worked up for my 7mm custom rifle using the 168gr hunting bullets. Problem is I can't get ahold of any. I found a lot of the 168gr targets today but wasn't sure if they would change anything? Anybody know? Thanks Allen

[seakev]

I'm getting ready to work up a load using the 168gr hunting (28570). Graf's has them in stock.

[huntandjeep]

I'm getting ready to work up a load using the 168gr hunting (28570). Graf's has them in stock.

Graf's ?

[jasnt]

To my knowledge they will shhot the same. Only difference is jacket thickness. And from what I've read only in certain caliber's  is it like that. Most of the target vs hunting are the same bullet but different box. Best I can remember some calibers like 6mm when shot from a wild cat round like a 243/300 win mag the bullet couldn't handle the velocity so they made those problem calibers in target and thicker jackets.  Email Berger for more info or just test them out your self. 6mm I know is one that they are different but I think 30 and 338 where also. Maybe cut one of each in half and see for your self. As for shooting and loads they should be identical

[wastickslinger]

I think the only difference is the label. I have wondered- same grain, same bc, different jacket thickness. I can't process it. How can weight and bc be the same if jacket thickness different. 

[jasnt]

I think the only difference is the label. I have wondered- same grain, same bc, different jacket thickness. I can't process it. How can weight and bc be the same if jacket thickness different. 

as a matter of fact they do not weigh the same. Check them you will see!

[Jim the Plumber]

The hunting and target should shoot the same POA. However the target may or maynot perform well on game, whereas the hunting will preform correctly on game.

[wastickslinger]

I think the only difference is the label. I have wondered- same grain, same bc, different jacket thickness. I can't process it. How can weight and bc be the same if jacket thickness different. 

as a matter of fact they do not weigh the same. Check them you will see!

So a 168 grain vld target is not the same weight as a 168 grain vld hunting?

[jasnt]

No.  One maybe 167.8 the other 168.4  or vice versa. I've even found my 185 hunting vld's are different weights in different lots.

[carpsniperg2]

They should shoot the same but like said. I do not trust the target bullets on game animals.

I'm getting ready to work up a load using the 168gr hunting (28570). Graf's has them in stock.

Graf's ?

He means Graf and Sons. Here you go. http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/25384

[wastickslinger]

All I know it my vld hunting performed like a target on my bull. It was terrible. Just my 

Still pretty sure the only difference is the label

[bobcat]

From the Berger website:

What is the difference between your bullet types? (Target/Tactical/Varmint/Hunting)

Posted March 6, 2013

Our Target and Tactical bullets are designed with thicker jackets that withstand more stress before bullet degradation occurs. A target or tactical shooter generally fires multiple rounds in a row, causing the barrel to heat up and more stress on bullet. To keep performance high, we give these bullets thicker jackets.

Our Varmint and Hunting bullets have slightly thinner jackets. This means that the bullet will expand more effectively, creating a large wound cavity that devastates the animal using hydrostatic shock. Hunters generally shoot 1-3 bullets at a time, so bullet degradation is not as much of a concern as expansion.

Read more here: http://www.bergerbullets.com/information/line-and-designs/

[wastickslinger]

From the Berger website:

What is the difference between your bullet types? (Target/Tactical/Varmint/Hunting)

Posted March 6, 2013

Our Target and Tactical bullets are designed with thicker jackets that withstand more stress before bullet degradation occurs. A target or tactical shooter generally fires multiple rounds in a row, causing the barrel to heat up and more stress on bullet. To keep performance high, we give these bullets thicker jackets.

Our Varmint and Hunting bullets have slightly thinner jackets. This means that the bullet will expand more effectively, creating a large wound cavity that devastates the animal using hydrostatic shock. Hunters generally shoot 1-3 bullets at a time, so bullet degradation is not as much of a concern as expansion.

Read more here: http://www.bergerbullets.com/information/line-and-designs/

I understand they say one has a thicker jacket. The question is how do you change jacket thickness, add/take away two different types of metals, and then end up the same total weight and bc? Maybe I'm just tired but it doesn't add up. Take away copper, add lead, bullet still same size/weight/bc?

[bobcat]

That's a good question. I have no idea.

[jasnt]

From the Berger website:

What is the difference between your bullet types? (Target/Tactical/Varmint/Hunting)

Posted March 6, 2013

Our Target and Tactical bullets are designed with thicker jackets that withstand more stress before bullet degradation occurs. A target or tactical shooter generally fires multiple rounds in a row, causing the barrel to heat up and more stress on bullet. To keep performance high, we give these bullets thicker jackets.

Our Varmint and Hunting bullets have slightly thinner jackets. This means that the bullet will expand more effectively, creating a large wound cavity that devastates the animal using hydrostatic shock. Hunters generally shoot 1-3 bullets at a time, so bullet degradation is not as much of a concern as expansion.

Read more here: http://www.bergerbullets.com/information/line-and-designs/

I understand they say one has a thicker jacket. The question is how do you change jacket thickness, add/take away two different types of metals, and then end up the same total weight and bc? Maybe I'm just tired but it doesn't add up. Take away copper, add lead, bullet still same size/weight/bc?

like I said early they are not the same! I weight sort all my bullets along with bearing surface measurement. They are slightly different. Not alot but they are. Some are longer some shorter. None of this makes any difference till your shooting over 1000 yards. Then these tiny differences will start to show.