Wolf shot near Pullman! Update 11/14/2014 pg. 8

[Special T]

When you say ID took the route of moderation and it has not worked out well for them...what exactly are you talking about?  They hunt and trap wolves year round; have hired trappers remove wolves; have decreased wolf numbers from highs in 2009; continue to have great deer and elk hunting in most OTC units.  I don't see where you could possibly suggest things have not worked out well for Idaho, given the wolves were reintroduced.

Well there are 2 seperate paths that do not neccesarily go together. Any State only has as many wolves as they are able to document regaurdless of the real number. There in lies the big slight of hand IMO ANYTIME you force your oppnet to fight on YOUR terms you will win. I dont think that WY has had as big a dropp off in animal numbers because they held the tough line, and in return they did not have to waste precious resource, time and $, to justify thier actions...  The "Balance" has been achieved in WY though shooting wolves that dont stay away from humans, and because of this more have been shot.

Wacking wolves in the "Predator Zone" is akin to shooting dogs running loose chasing game or livestock.  They are shot and it is not advertised or talked openly about. If the people of WY do not seek attention  the problem resolves itself, and they still have wolves. So since the state is not likely to enforce this Court decree, and according to you the Feds are "OK" with hunting them, what do you think will really change in WY? Some hunters wont shoot them, Likely most out of state hunters won't. Trapping for "other" animals is ok  so do you think that will really stop the killing?

What the law is and what they can enforce are 2 completely seperate things. You Hail from ID, not sure where, but I know several people in the Northern sections that have NEVER been afraid to run law enforcemnt off thier property.

[idahohuntr]

When you say ID took the route of moderation and it has not worked out well for them...what exactly are you talking about?  They hunt and trap wolves year round; have hired trappers remove wolves; have decreased wolf numbers from highs in 2009; continue to have great deer and elk hunting in most OTC units.  I don't see where you could possibly suggest things have not worked out well for Idaho, given the wolves were reintroduced.

Well there are 2 seperate paths that do not neccesarily go together. Any State only has as many wolves as they are able to document regaurdless of the real number. There in lies the big slight of hand IMO ANYTIME you force your oppnet to fight on YOUR terms you will win. I dont think that WY has had as big a dropp off in animal numbers because they held the tough line, and in return they did not have to waste precious resource, time and $, to justify thier actions...  The "Balance" has been achieved in WY though shooting wolves that dont stay away from humans, and because of this more have been shot.

Wacking wolves in the "Predator Zone" is akin to shooting dogs running loose chasing game or livestock.  They are shot and it is not advertised or talked openly about. If the people of WY do not seek attention  the problem resolves itself, and they still have wolves. So since the state is not likely to enforce this Court decree, and according to you the Feds are "OK" with hunting them, what do you think will really change in WY? Some hunters wont shoot them, Likely most out of state hunters won't. Trapping for "other" animals is ok  so do you think that will really stop the killing?

What the law is and what they can enforce are 2 completely seperate things. You Hail from ID, not sure where, but I know several people in the Northern sections that have NEVER been afraid to run law enforcemnt off thier property.

You friends with the Weavers?   

I think what changes in WY is that a vast number of sportsmen won't actually poach a wolf, but would have shot said wolf if seasons were open.

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   I prefer to hear wolves shot not wolf shot.   mike w

[Special T]

Nope, but i dont think its really that different than Leo's not really patrolling areas like Pontiac ridge here in Wa.