berger bullets!

[idahohuntr]

I load 140gr VLD bergers in my wifes 7mm-08...its hard to specifically fault the bullet because there are so many variables, but for some reason  every "headache" I've had recovering game has been when she used those bullets.  Whether its real or just coincidence I am not having her shoot bergers anymore out of that gun.   I had another guy tell me that when he has heard of problems with hunting with Bergers it has been specifically with their 7mm bullets.   

[gotcha]

Vlds 140 grains have killed alot of animals I know of. My 6.5 284 does the job with them.

[birddogdad]

the problem in this thread is not a berger bullet issue....

[Greenhorn]

I use the 180gr vld's in my 7mm and have had mixed results.   I will continue to use them.   I shot one spike elk at 100 yds and the bullet went in one side and out the other through the vitals and the elk dropped straight down.   Shot a 5x5 bull at 360 yards and hit it in the spine and it dropped straight down hard but crawled about 30 yds away.   Shot a cow this year at 392 yds down at a steep angle.   Hit it all three times but only found broken bone and fragmented bullet and one large exit hole out a hind quarter.  The cow ended up about 20 yds from initial shot.   I have also shot two bucks at 400 and 500 yards that took a follow up shot but never retrieved the bullets.   I was just looking in my desk tonight and found a perfectly mushroomed Remington core-lokt bullet that I killed something with in the past.   If you are looking for a mushroom,  you will never get it with the Berger.   If you are looking for something to be dead,  They all depend on placement and Bergers can do it accurately from a long range.

[coachcw]

Vld wound channel

[bobcat]

I used 140 grain Bergers out of my 270 Winchester on my bighorn sheep and I was very happy with their performance. First shot was through the shoulder, he was quartering slightly towards me at 282 yards. He ran about 50 yards and I shot again, this time it was through the heart. Both bullets exited and surprisingly, damaged very little meat. I've shot a lot of Nosler Ballistic Tips and I am certain they would not have exited.

[BULLBLASTER]

This is a exit from a 215 berger target hybrid at 275 yards. Not bad performance if you ask me.

[Biggerhammer]

I bet that was "Lights out!".

[actionshooter]

I would love to try them, I won a certificate for 500 back in June and I am still waiting for them. 180gr/7mm.
 sooner or later I guess.

Everything I read is the same, guys love them or hate them.

[BULLBLASTER]

I bet that was "Lights out!".

it definitely was. It was actually a follow up. First shot spined him about the diaphram. He was trying to drag away so i hit him again.

[longwalker]

I'll take bullets like Accubonds and TTSXs that are proven to penetrate through thick tissue and bone over target style "hunting" bullets every time.

I've shot all these including what I shoot now, Berger hunter classics out of my 300win. I'll never shoot Barnes again but I did always have good luck with accubonds. This year I've killed two deer with the Bergers. One at a little under 100 yards and one yesterday at 435 both absolutely pancaked in there tracks. I won't be going back, those Bergers are a hammer

[coachcw]

that lil 140 berger flat rocked that bull yesterday he never to another step , just stood there shaking for a few seconds and went down srious internal blood loss and trama

[Taco280AI]

Coyote around 170 yards, 270WSM 140AB. Good wound channel, holds together - coyotes to elk.

What happens with those Bergers when they hit heavy bone and tissue on an elk? A neck shot on a deer, big deal. Bad angle, through the shoulder on an elk, at high velocity? Is it going to penetrate? Is it going to hold together?

[Taco280AI]

Top left is a .30 210 VLD at 2800fps and 27.5% weight retained after going through cow bone and newspaper. Not what I'm looking for in a hunting bullet. Others, like the Accubond, Partition, TSX help up great.




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[birddogdad]

 is it even a berger? which type? hunting target or classic hunter? there are many all have different hardness for different applications.... not enough data here....