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Offline Mr Mykiss

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How Wyoming does poachers!!
« on: November 13, 2014, 08:08:52 AM »
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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 08:21:27 AM »
Impressed the hell outta me: http://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/news-1002329.aspx
Send that to WDFW  maybe they will listen

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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 08:52:02 AM »
 :yeah:
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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2014, 09:08:51 AM »
Nicely done Wyoming  :tup:

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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 09:18:06 AM »
Albany Circuit Court Judge Honorable Robert A. Castor ordered Clark to pay $30,240 in fines and suspended his hunting, fishing and trapping privileges for 36 years.

Good deal on the fine, but suspending licenses for folks that never purchased them in the first place is laughable.
 Love how social media is giving up a lot of these clowns.

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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2014, 09:37:43 AM »
What's so impressive?  :dunno: they chose not to file multiple charges against the poacher, the prosecution also dropped four other charges. Basically he got a slap on the wrist, a fine and loss of hunting privileges   :rolleyes: no jail time, no house arrest, no confication of weapons or vehicle used in the crime. If anything he might be one step closer to doing time, IF HE GETS CAUGHT AGAIN.  :bash:

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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2014, 10:21:31 AM »
What's so impressive?  :dunno: they chose not to file multiple charges against the poacher, the prosecution also dropped four other charges. Basically he got a slap on the wrist, a fine and loss of hunting privileges   :rolleyes: no jail time, no house arrest, no confication of weapons or vehicle used in the crime. If anything he might be one step closer to doing time, IF HE GETS CAUGHT AGAIN.  :bash:
You must not be familiar with the way WA prosecutes poachers....
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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2014, 10:48:23 AM »
What's so impressive?  :dunno: they chose not to file multiple charges against the poacher, the prosecution also dropped four other charges. Basically he got a slap on the wrist, a fine and loss of hunting privileges   :rolleyes: no jail time, no house arrest, no confication of weapons or vehicle used in the crime. If anything he might be one step closer to doing time, IF HE GETS CAUGHT AGAIN.  :bash:
You must not be familiar with the way WA prosecutes poachers....
my point is,  that this seems on par with the way Washington prosecutes poachers. No real charges per say, just a fine. Please enlighten me to why I should be impressed? We are talking about prosecution, correct?

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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2014, 10:59:06 AM »
The fine seems much larger, like 6-10x. I guess you're right, I was trying to be positive about something today but screw it. :bash:
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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2014, 11:16:31 AM »
I feel your frustration. I wanted to expand on my previous post but didn't want to derail or draw this thread off-topics.

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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2014, 11:24:02 AM »
$30,240 just seems like a s#i!load of money compared to what I've seen in WA...
Also a 36 year hunting ban seems like a s#i!load more than what I've seen in WA...
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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2014, 11:54:04 AM »
$30,240 just seems like a s#i!load of money compared to what I've seen in WA...
Also a 36 year hunting ban seems like a s#i!load more than what I've seen in WA...

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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2014, 12:16:34 PM »
That's what I'm talking about. Make the penalty steep enough that these *censored*es won't take a chance of being caught.
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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 12:20:42 PM »
I love the fine portion but just wish they could come up with an alternative to the loss of hunting privilege because that is a waste. Maybe do something more like a big fine and then have to do a certain amount of community service directly related to fish and wildlife. Make them pick up garbage, repair fences or whatever. They stole from the wildlife and from mother nature so it would be nice to force them to give something back.
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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2014, 12:33:58 PM »
Like this?


$10,000 in fines and restitution; six months in jail with work release; four years probation; 150 hours of community service; nationwide revocation of hunting, gun-owning privileges for three years; levied in 2005, against Michael James Gates, of Yakima, Wash., for killing a trophy-class bull elk and two mule deer while hunting illegally in southeast Washington in October 2002.

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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2014, 12:36:04 PM »
Like this?


$10,000 in fines and restitution; six months in jail with work release; four years probation; 150 hours of community service; nationwide revocation of hunting, gun-owning privileges for three years; levied in 2005, against Michael James Gates, of Yakima, Wash., for killing a trophy-class bull elk and two mule deer while hunting illegally in southeast Washington in October 2002.

Yep. That works  :tup:
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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 01:07:12 PM »
Impressed the hell outta me: http://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/news-1002329.aspx
Send that to WDFW  maybe they will listen
People need to realize it's not WDFW that is soft on poachers, it's the prosecutors and judges.

If you illegally shoot a doe you must pay $2,000 to WDFW upon conviction. Then you face the criminal fine of UP TO $5,000 and UP TO 364 days in jail. So realistically you could be in jail for a year and pay out $7,000 for shooting a doe.

Unfortunately most prosecutors and judges just say the $2,000 is enough and close the case. The reason for the mandatory payment to WDFW is because before that penalties were even worse so they asked the legislature for a mandatory civil fine upon conviction.

The penalties are there, they just aren't dished out....

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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2014, 01:19:13 PM »
People need to realize it's not WDFW that is soft on poachers, it's the prosecutors and judges.

I would hope that most do. I don't think many wardens get into the profession just to go easy on poachers... :chuckle:
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Re: How Wyoming does poachers!!
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2014, 08:28:36 PM »
Now that's setting an example. :tup:
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