"I will not comply" on KIRO

[baker5150]

http://mynorthwest.com/813/2643190/They-Will-Not-Comply

Listening, it's pretty obvious how Dave Ross feels. 

I think Gavin has some really good points and is a good interview, but Dave Ross just doesn't get it.  If people would just open their minds they would see what Gavin is trying to say, That it's not just about 594 but all of our liberties that can, have, and could be taken from us.

Give em inch and they'll take mile

[Kittman]

His female morning sidekick on the radio was mentioning, or more like complaining about why are "they" making a huge Rukus out of the whole thing.  They just don't get it.  People can't just go on voting constitutional rights away...

[Angry Perch]

I listened to a bit of it on the way into work this morning, but not all. And we know what bits are going to end up getting radio play. Obviously Dave Ross is on the other side of this issue, as are the vast majority of his listeners, I presume. Gavin certainly didn't help the cause. First, I think the argument that "criminals will get guns no matter what" needs to go away. Yes, it's true, but it is just not an effective argument. And not-so-veiled threats to take up arms against anyone who tries to enforce this law will send anyone who's on the fence running for cover. Just my 

[baker5150]

I listened to a bit of it on the way into work this morning, but not all. And we know what bits are going to end up getting radio play. Obviously Dave Ross is on the other side of this issue, as are the vast majority of his listeners, I presume. Gavin certainly didn't help the cause. First, I think the argument that "criminals will get guns no matter what" needs to go away. Yes, it's true, but it is just not an effective argument. And not-so-veiled threats to take up arms against anyone who tries to enforce this law will send anyone who's on the fence running for cover. Just my 

I somewhat disagree.  It's a valid point when pointing out that this law isn't going to change the amount of guns sold to felons.  Felons are already breaking one law, why not one more.  What I see Gavin trying to point out is that, regardless of the effectiveness of this law, it's a violation of our second amendment right.  And also, it's a step in the direction of other constitutional rights being limited or all out taken away. 

He said it multiple times, it's about liberty, not just gun rights.  It's about what we let our government take from us.  It's about what we let our fellow Americans take from us.  "The collective majority does not have the right to vote away the rights of another" especially when those are considered god given rights.  If people would just open their eyes they would see this isn't just about gun rights, it's about all our rights.

[huntrights]

...  If people would just open their eyes they would see this isn't just about gun rights, it's about all our rights.

"Gun rights activists plan I-594 protest at Capitol"
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/nov/13/gun-rights-activists-plan-i-594-protest-at-capitol/

[billythekidrock]

I am not against a rally or protest, but this one is already making us look bad.

[timberfaller]

I am not against a rally or protest, but this one is already making us look bad.

HOW???

I am old enough to know that anything the "press" said is biased at best.

Standing up for ones Rights even if others "don't get it" is a good thing.

[luvmystang67]

That spokesman article is ridiculous...

"they don't see the law that way" is absurd.  Basically, the cops need a legal opinion from a real lawyer.  I'm happy to hear that it basically sounds so ridiculous to them that they don't feel the need to arrest anyone, but if they actually understood the law they should be   

[h20hunter]

I am not against a rally or protest, but this one is already making us look bad.

HOW???

I am old enough to know that anything the "press" said is biased at best.

Standing up for ones Rights even if others "don't get it" is a good thing.

I believe that is in reference to a call for a showing of arms (public open carry rally) referred to in another thread.

[timberfaller]

When you give a inch, THEY expect a mile these days. 

What needs to happen and make things somewhat normal again is, ALL school districts should be required to have a Shooting Team.   It was the norm before, could be again.  It takes backbone and love of Independence and Freedom.  But then, "History" hasn't been taught for over a generation now.

[Kittman]

If I understand the sentiment here of what I have been reading it goes something like this:  The Sheeple are getting worried over what the dumb voting Sheeple think...that have already voted for something dumb...

[HighlandLofts]

When you give a inch, THEY expect a mile these days. 

What needs to happen and make things somewhat normal again is, ALL school districts should be required to have a Shooting Team.   It was the norm before, could be again.  It takes backbone and love of Independence and Freedom.  But then, "History" hasn't been taught for over a generation now.

That sure as hell won't happen in these times where they have the sheeple brain washed that every gun out there is bad news. Recently a young kid was expelled from school for making a gun shape out of a pop-tart. Several kids were expelled for wearing NRSA shirts to school. The list goes on & on.

It's time to stand up guys and do something, are any of you going to the Rally on the 13th? Or will you be staying home and watch a ball game?

The last I knew I was a free American Citizen, but they are making short work of that. If you look who's behind all of this, look at the Democrat Party. All feel good legislation to take your gun rights away. Remember Sheeple, It's for the Children.

[yorketransport]

I heard that interview while I was working yesterday. The whole thing just made me cringe. The pro gun movement needs to invest some time and money into a decent PR rep if they're going to help public image. Gavin did far more damage in that 3 minutes than anyone could have expected from either side of the debate. I mean honestly, stating that you'll defend your self with a firearm from any criminal after explaining how the government officials are criminals? These are not the people I want representing me or my interests!

I am not against a rally or protest, but this one is already making us look bad.

Getting a bunch of angry gun owners together in an act of protest and encouraging them to bring their guns is just a recipe for disaster and confrontation. The reason any social movement is successful is because it plays to peoples' emotions. The Anti gun movement is successful because they play to everyone's sense of humanity. The Pro gun movement feeds off of the fear and anger of the pro gun supporters. Just look at the tactics used by the NRA. Fear and anger will never help this cause.

I wish everyone would just understand the difference between enemies and opponents. There are enemies in wars and opponents in ideological disagreements. The gun debate is just that, a debate, not a war. The anti gun groups are not enemies to be threatened or defeated. They are simply opponents to be converted and persuaded.

Andrew

[csaaphill]

go get em peacefull protest 
if it wins

[Angry Perch]

Good grief!  If the majority of people in a room are scared of snakes, I'm pretty sure calling them names and putting pythons around their necks isn't going to help sway them. Most of the people I associate with- coworkers, in-laws, friends -  were or would have been (until I spoke sensibly to them about it) supporters of 594. There are millions of people that have had zero exposure to guns in their lives, and to them, guns, especially black ones, are scary. Why wouldn't they be? Heck, when I go to the range and every guy there is wearing tactical gear and shooting an AR, it freaks me out. I'm not scared in any way, but it's just a different culture than the gun culture I grew up with. I absolutely support it, but it's very different. I wish I had the answer to all of our problems, but it's clear that the current strategy is not working.