I-594 Special Notice from DOR

[seakev]

http://dor.wa.gov/Docs/Pubs/SpecialNotices/2014/sn_14_Firearms.pdf

Well, here it is. Anyone surprised?

[lamrith]

Actually, the way that reads is that they do not have to collect sale tax if I sell you a gun and go thru a dealer for background check.  IT also extends that now to interstate transfers like buying a gun thru gunbroker.

Dealer purchases, or transfers like Bud's would still require tax collection.

[stevemiller]

Well there is your firearm registration for firearms purchased from here on.

[Special T]

I saw that and forwarded it to my gunsmith/dealer. It is clarification that was needed.

[lamrith]

Nevermind, I was not yet all the way thru it, per the last page tax is due.

That means when you pass away and your family is now FORCED to get a background check, they also get hit with tax, ontop of any normal estate tax.

[carpsniperg2]

Actually, the way that reads is that they do not have to collect sale tax if I sell you a gun and go thru a dealer for background check.  IT also extends that now to interstate transfers like buying a gun thru gunbroker.

Dealer purchases, or transfers like Bud's would still require tax collection.

"Is the interstate transfer of a firearm from a licensed dealer subject to sales tax or use tax?

Yes. An in-state firearms dealer involved in the transfer of a firearm from an out-of-state licensed firearms dealer to an unlicensed person in this state (interstate transfers) remains responsible for collecting use tax from the transferee."

You still have to pay tax on guns brought in from out of state. So if you buy a gun from gun broker that is out of state and brought into Washington you still have to pay tax.

[Boss .300 winmag]

all my guns were given away to my kids prior to 594.

[bigmacc]

They need to print up something like this to explain the whole bill,a yes you can do this....and no you cant do that,without all the "attorney talk" Ive talked to some buddies in the sheriffs dept that are having a hard time figuring this thing out,all aspects of this bill that I beleive was worded the way it was to confuse voters...

[Bob33]

You still have to pay tax on guns brought in from out of state. So if you buy a gun from gun broker that is out of state and brought into Washington you still have to pay tax.

Yes that Is current law. Use tax is required on out of state purchases.

dor.wa.gov/content/findtaxesandrates/usetax/

[carpsniperg2]

Indeed. The link you posted bob is on general goods.

Here is the firearm specific link for anyone who would like to read it.

http://dor.wa.gov/Content/GetAFormOrPublication/PublicationBySubject/TaxTopics/FirearmTransfers.aspx

[cem3434]

If the sale of a firearm is completed on ceded lands, then is the buyer subject to a FFL transfer and paying sales tax? Unless I read it incorrectly, it appears that anyone can still complete private sales on tribal or ceded lands. Am I missing something or does this RCW somehow apply to sales on ceded lands?

[jay.sharkbait]

I was wondering if a receiver or a frame would require a background check under 594?

[carpsniperg2]

I am sure it would require a background check since they consider a receiver/frame a firearm.

[jay.sharkbait]

I am sure it would require a background check since they consider a receiver/frame a firearm.

The feds do, but does 594 address it?

[JimmyHoffa]

I am sure it would require a background check since they consider a receiver/frame a firearm.

The feds do, but does 594 address it?

interesting.  feds regulate a part, 594 mentions firearm...a receiver doesn't propel a projectile with gunpowder.

[jay.sharkbait]

I am sure it would require a background check since they consider a receiver/frame a firearm.

The feds do, but does 594 address it?

interesting.  feds regulate a part, 594 mentions firearm...a receiver doesn't propel a projectile with gunpowder.

Exactly

[Windwalker]

 Hard to keep civil thoughts reading this. Must be getting old and grumpy..
 
Tax Tax Tax -
If $ changes hands- and sometimes even if it doesn't you can bet there will will be a tax owed.
Use tax...? There is no longer any defense against arbitrary taxation.

If it goes through the pipes for registration I am sure it will be tagged for taxes.

[carpsniperg2]

I am sure it would require a background check since they consider a receiver/frame a firearm.

The feds do, but does 594 address it?

interesting.  feds regulate a part, 594 mentions firearm...a receiver doesn't propel a projectile with gunpowder.

Exactly

I see what you are saying.  This is the exact wording on 594:

"Firearm" means a weapon or device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder.

I am sure they would have thought about that but it's not very clear by there definition. I know what the fed's call a firearm. On the state level who knows, maybe the consider it a device used for making a gun?

[jay.sharkbait]

I am sure it would require a background check since they consider a receiver/frame a firearm.

The feds do, but does 594 address it?

interesting.  feds regulate a part, 594 mentions firearm...a receiver doesn't propel a projectile with gunpowder.

Exactly

I see what you are saying.  This is the exact wording on 594:

"Firearm" means a weapon or device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder.

I am sure they would have thought about that but it's not very clear by there definition. I know what the fed's call a firearm. On the state level who knows, maybe the consider it a device used for making a gun?

I don't know if they thought of it.

I know on the Federal level a frame/rec'r falls under a different classification when it comes to FET.

[hrd2fnd]

I recall bigtex stating in another thread that 504 stills applies even if on tribal land