Why do people think the 6.5 -.284 is any better than the regular .284 Win.?

[whacker1]

I am waiting to see more builds in the 6.5x300 RUM. 

BiggerHammer - have you built one yet?

[coachcw]

The bullet diameter has nothing to do with accuracy. I'm guessing the reason to go 6.5 would be to take advantage of speed gains and a better BC.

not true in wind the slender 6.5 140 bullet performs fabulously. my 6.5 shoots 3147 fps with the 140 vlds out of a 30 inch pipe with a break . basically zero recoil and you see impact down range through the scope . the downfall is they are barrel burners if you plan on only running 1500 rounds through it in it's life the 6.5 rocks. if you do rebarrl the one you have leave it a bit long and you can rechamber it down the road and not loose the performance.

[CAMPMEAT]

I just bought a NEW Savage Model 111with DBM 6.5x284, accutrigger, topped with a Nikon 3x9x40 scope for $475 delivered. Good truck gun for you guys who want one.

[Biggerhammer]

I am waiting to see more builds in the 6.5x300 RUM. 

BiggerHammer - have you built one yet?

I built a 6.5 Badger, 6.5-.338 Ultra Magnum with a 40 degree shoulder. In the pic bellow, left to right.

.338 RUM case, 6.5 Badger with a 160gr Matrix VLD, .375 BME with a 350gr Sierra MK, 6.5-.284 case

Yorke has also built a 6.5 Badger and the .375 BME(Box Monkey Express) is Yorke's creation.

[RadSav]

It's better because you can actually find head stamped brass for it.  Been three years since I saw a 284 headstamp on brass for sale.

Kiwi "Grant Lovelock" (True-Flite barrels) seems to be doing well with the 180 from the 284.  Said it was his choice because of the improved performance in wind compared to the 6.5.  For deer hunting I think you get a little better terminal performance from the 129/130 grain velocity of the 6.5 while having a better BC than the 140 grain .284.  I'd rather have the 284 for an elk hunt, but would not feel too under gunned if I had a 6.5 in my hands.  Both great cartridges.  Just wish you could get some darn 284 stamped brass more than once every decade.  Would make my next project a lot easier decision.

[Rich_S]

So, to me it seems the concensus is that the 6.5 - .284 is a current favorite on the target range while, for actual use as a hunting rifle, the standard .284 Winchester is as good as the guy behind the trigger. BTW, I wasn't looking for smart ass answers like, "I think you'll figure it out." I was genuinely curious what all the hoopla was about. I'm not a current subscriber to magazines and thought perhaps the good people here on the forum could help.

My Model 88, with 139-140 grain bullets clocks in at just over 3,000 fps and throws groups just under 1 moa if I do my job (not likely these days). I have four or five hundred factory and reloaded rounds in my locker, enough for a lifetime of shooting. You'll have to deal with my son and daughter after I'm gone, 'cause I'm not selling any now.

Anyway, thanks for the conversation. To me it looks like another "fad" wildcat load. Until the next one. If I need speed, I'll load my .300 Win. Mag. with sabots and .22 boolits. 

[Biggerhammer]

So, to me it seems the concensus is that the 6.5 - .284 is a current favorite on the target range while, for actual use as a hunting rifle, the standard .284 Winchester is as good as the guy behind the trigger. BTW, I wasn't looking for smart ass answers like, "I think you'll figure it out." I was genuinely curious what all the hoopla was about. I'm not a current subscriber to magazines and thought perhaps the good people here on the forum could help.

My Model 88, with 139-140 grain bullets clocks in at just over 3,000 fps and throws groups just under 1 moa if I do my job (not likely these days). I have four or five hundred factory and reloaded rounds in my locker, enough for a lifetime of shooting. You'll have to deal with my son and daughter after I'm gone, 'cause I'm not selling any now.

Anyway, thanks for the conversation. To me it looks like another "fad" wildcat load. Until the next one. If I need speed, I'll load my .300 Win. Mag. with sabots and .22 boolits. 

It wasn't smart ass, a little home work will take a guy a long ways. The 6.5-.284 is far beyond a "Fad" wildcat cartridge. Norma and Lapua make quality brass for it. Along with several other manufacturers.

Factory loaded ammunition is available also.

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?dimensionids=9926


http://www.midwayusa.com/product/794750/hornady-reloading-brass-65mm-284-norma-box-of-50


http://www.nosler.com/65-284-norma/

[mountainman]

So, to me it seems the concensus is that the 6.5 - .284 is a current favorite on the target range while, for actual use as a hunting rifle, the standard .284 Winchester is as good as the guy behind the trigger. BTW, I wasn't looking for smart ass answers like, "I think you'll figure it out." I was genuinely curious what all the hoopla was about. I'm not a current subscriber to magazines and thought perhaps the good people here on the forum could help.

My Model 88, with 139-140 grain bullets clocks in at just over 3,000 fps and throws groups just under 1 moa if I do my job (not likely these days). I have four or five hundred factory and reloaded rounds in my locker, enough for a lifetime of shooting. You'll have to deal with my son and daughter after I'm gone, 'cause I'm not selling any now.

Anyway, thanks for the conversation. To me it looks like another "fad" wildcat load. Until the next one. If I need speed, I'll load my .300 Win. Mag. with sabots and .22 boolits. 

[jay.sharkbait]

So, to me it seems the concensus is that the 6.5 - .284 is a current favorite on the target range while, for actual use as a hunting rifle, the standard .284 Winchester is as good as the guy behind the trigger. BTW, I wasn't looking for smart ass answers like, "I think you'll figure it out." I was genuinely curious what all the hoopla was about. I'm not a current subscriber to magazines and thought perhaps the good people here on the forum could help.

My Model 88, with 139-140 grain bullets clocks in at just over 3,000 fps and throws groups just under 1 moa if I do my job (not likely these days). I have four or five hundred factory and reloaded rounds in my locker, enough for a lifetime of shooting. You'll have to deal with my son and daughter after I'm gone, 'cause I'm not selling any now.

Anyway, thanks for the conversation. To me it looks like another "fad" wildcat load. Until the next one. If I need speed, I'll load my .300 Win. Mag. with sabots and .22 boolits. 

A "fad" wildcat round that's been around for 40 years?

[jjhunter]

Quite a few guys running .284 win the 180s.  Pretty solid combo could probably edge a 6.5/140 combo.

Check the speed on a 180gr out of a .284 Win. Do the math and let me know.

Checked the speed and did the math.  I've run a 284/180 combo at 2900-ish.   I've also run 6.5x284s/140s from 2900-3050.    Both great combos - one is not leaps and bounds ahead of the other if set up right.  In optimal set-ups, id take the 284.

[Biggerhammer]

Quite a few guys running .284 win the 180s.  Pretty solid combo could probably edge a 6.5/140 combo.

Check the speed on a 180gr out of a .284 Win. Do the math and let me know.

Checked the speed and did the math.  I've run a 284/180 combo at 2900-ish.   I've also run 6.5x284s/140s from 2900-3050.    Both great combos - one is not leaps and bounds ahead of the other if set up right.  In optimal set-ups, id take the 284.

No problem for a 7mm Magnum to push a 180 at 2900. As for the .284 Win and a 180 at 2900?? I would have to see that for myself on the chrony. I suspect it's south of "2900 ISH" by a ways. Unless we are talking "Optimal set-ups" and 30" plus barrels.

[jjhunter]

Quite a few guys running .284 win the 180s.  Pretty solid combo could probably edge a 6.5/140 combo.

Check the speed on a 180gr out of a .284 Win. Do the math and let me know.

Checked the speed and did the math.  I've run a 284/180 combo at 2900-ish.   I've also run 6.5x284s/140s from 2900-3050.    Both great combos - one is not leaps and bounds ahead of the other if set up right.  In optimal set-ups, id take the 284.

No problem for a 7mm Magnum to push a 180 at 2900. As for the .284 Win and a 180 at 2900?? I would have to see that for myself on the chrony. I suspect it's south of "2900 ISH" by a ways. Unless we are talking "Optimal set-ups" and 30" plus barrels.

I only shoot optimal set-ups.  Lol!

[Bofire]

 :)You are Gentle BigHammer, I'd have to see it to beleive 2600.
Carl

[257 Wby Mag]

Quite a few guys running .284 win the 180s.  Pretty solid combo could probably edge a 6.5/140 combo.

Check the speed on a 180gr out of a .284 Win. Do the math and let me know.

Checked the speed and did the math.  I've run a 284/180 combo at 2900-ish.   I've also run 6.5x284s/140s from 2900-3050.    Both great combos - one is not leaps and bounds ahead of the other if set up right.  In optimal set-ups, id take the 284.

No problem for a 7mm Magnum to push a 180 at 2900. As for the .284 Win and a 180 at 2900?? I would have to see that for myself on the chrony. I suspect it's south of "2900 ISH" by a ways. Unless we are talking "Optimal set-ups" and 30" plus barrels.

No way in hell a 284 is pushin a 180@2900... Both chamberings setup for long range are gonna need a long action with bullets used for such, use a 280ai or 6.5/06ai and 26" snouts. Gonna run 28"-30" snouts shoot your 6.5 stw, badger, nosler or 7 stw, rogue, 7/375 Ruger etc... Kind of a no brainer in book..

[jjhunter]

The internet has spoken.  Lol!