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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #195 on: January 29, 2015, 07:09:24 AM »
So if he doesn't???The state closed Coyote season in the 90's in the Psyden Wilderness. He just showed you proof that there were wolves here 25years ago on Both sides of the Cascades.

As to why the Population didn't explode then...I think your baiting him/us.
I know you have heard the argument that many of us dont think the wolves from McKensey Valley Canada are the same kind as the wolves that were here. It would explain why when wolves from Canada were introduced into ID  they migrated West Instead of from the north to south.

All the facts, logic or proof in the world wont matter now. All that we can hope for is that the new director is willing to make documenting packs a higher priority than the last director. If he does that i will chalk that up in the WIN category.
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #196 on: January 29, 2015, 07:31:53 AM »
The people in Idaho I know, don't like Unsworth at all. He's a wolf lover, enviro supporter they say....
Then I would say those people don't really know Unsworth.  He is not a wolf lover...I think that is pretty clear.  :dunno:


Do you know him, or just support him ?
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #197 on: January 29, 2015, 01:53:09 PM »
So if he doesn't???The state closed Coyote season in the 90's in the Psyden Wilderness. He just showed you proof that there were wolves here 25years ago on Both sides of the Cascades.

As to why the Population didn't explode then...I think your baiting him/us.
I know you have heard the argument that many of us dont think the wolves from McKensey Valley Canada are the same kind as the wolves that were here. It would explain why when wolves from Canada were introduced into ID  they migrated West Instead of from the north to south.

All the facts, logic or proof in the world wont matter now. All that we can hope for is that the new director is willing to make documenting packs a higher priority than the last director. If he does that i will chalk that up in the WIN category.

I was at the commission meeting in the 90's when they eliminated the coyote hunting in the paysayten to protect wolves. I can confirm that is true.
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #198 on: January 29, 2015, 02:15:52 PM »
This topic has certainly gotten off topic. :chuckle:

No matter who would have been confirmed as director there would be some folks who disagree with the decision. I believe that Unsworth is a hunter and that he supports hunting seasons. His experience working for one of the most hunter friendly fish and game departments is a plus for Washington.

As far as some folks saying he is a wolf lover, I think he is more in the middle and I would guess that he believes wolves need to be controlled so they fit in with fewer impacts than non-controlled wolf numbers would cause. Of course he will have to manage the way the commission tells him. To keep this in perspective, there are some folks out there who think I am a wolf lover because I am not as adamantly opposed to wolves as they are.

I think we are very fortunate that Unsworth was chosen. I welcome him and his longtime experience in Idaho to Washington!  :hello:
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #199 on: January 29, 2015, 02:26:41 PM »
Regardless of how well any of us think Unsworth does, I am happy they hired from outside of WDFW.  Because I know how things would have continued if they had hired from within the agency.  Status quo.

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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #200 on: January 29, 2015, 03:19:00 PM »
Regardless of how well any of us think Unsworth does, I am happy they hired from outside of WDFW.  Because I know how things would have continued if they had hired from within the agency.  Status quo.
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #201 on: January 29, 2015, 07:28:11 PM »
I was told by someone who is politically involved at the state level that a mutany would occur in the wdfw if Cenci became director and that he was the original front runner.
I too am happy they picked someone outside the department and hope that he has the fortitude to be a strong leader. I think it will be important for hunting orgs to be organised and vocal about where sportsmen want things to go.
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #202 on: January 31, 2015, 09:28:39 PM »

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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #203 on: January 31, 2015, 09:49:43 PM »
Tom Remington must have an extra special tinfoil hat :chuckle:  It's usually got to be close to an election to see that many lies and deception in one article. 

I know if I want the inside scoop on Idaho and Washington fish and wildlife management I go straight to a nutcase with a blog who has spent his whole life on the east coast and lives in Florida :chuckle: 
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #204 on: January 31, 2015, 10:14:32 PM »
If not Unsworth who could the department hire? Any "Western" state save WY has capitulated to the feds on the wolf issue, and there are only so many states that have similar issues to deal with.

If Unsworth doesnt make some serious headway then the department will have lost its biggest chance at a turnaround with sportsmen.
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #205 on: February 01, 2015, 12:25:54 AM »
I was told by someone who is politically involved at the state level that a mutany would occur in the wdfw if Cenci became director and that he was the original front runner.

I'm sorry but I just can't see that being true. If you know Cenci you know he doesn't want to give up his badge and gun yet, if ever. Also need to consider that Cenci isn't even a division director. I'd be completely shocked if he even considered applying.

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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #206 on: February 01, 2015, 08:11:46 AM »
I dont know Cenci, So if you say so I must be mistaken. Its just what i heard so its hearsay anyway...

I COULD see a Mutiny  if he was appointed director tho.
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #207 on: February 01, 2015, 08:45:17 AM »
I was told by someone who is politically involved at the state level that a mutany would occur in the wdfw if Cenci became director and that he was the original front runner.

I'm sorry but I just can't see that being true. If you know Cenci you know he doesn't want to give up his badge and gun yet, if ever. Also need to consider that Cenci isn't even a division director. I'd be completely shocked if he even considered applying.

I fully agree with BigTex.  Cenci was in no way qualified to be director, and he would never voluntarily give up his law enforcement position.

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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #208 on: February 01, 2015, 08:50:27 PM »
Well i have heard from several other people who i would consider "in the know" so I heard something wrong or my "source" was completely wrong...

I retract my statement that he was a front runner, I should have kept my mouth shut. Hearsay even from a source you know is still hearsay.
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Re: New WDFW Director Named
« Reply #209 on: February 02, 2015, 06:26:40 AM »
Well i have heard from several other people who i would consider "in the know" so I heard something wrong or my "source" was completely wrong...

I retract my statement that he was a front runner, I should have kept my mouth shut. Hearsay even from a source you know is still hearsay.

No that's fine, there are a lot of rumors going around, and it's worth tracking them down

 


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