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Re: Why Hunters and the Hunting Industry Should Worry
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2015, 04:07:40 PM »

I couldn't help but think while I was reading that about the "Golden Rule" which is He who has all the gold makes all the rules.

This...this will be what defeat us if anything...


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Re: Why Hunters and the Hunting Industry Should Worry
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2015, 04:39:37 PM »
The article is flawed in some aspects.  Anti-hunters are no more organized or cohesive in their efforts than hunters are in stopping them or promoting all aspects of our sport. 

On the last point, I think it is important for hunters to become knowledgeable about aspects of hunting they are not familiar with before making comments out of ignorance.  However, I believe there are tons of issues that hunters need to self-police on...especially when it comes to technology, methods, and techniques.  If the primary justification for maintaining specific technology, methods, or techniques is "hunters shouldn't argue with other hunters"...BAN IT!!  :chuckle:

There are a lot of things to be concerned about when it comes to the future of hunting: Hollywood, Leonardo DiCaprio, and the organizational structure of anti-hunters are not what should keep hunters up at night...access and habitat issues...  :hello:

I couldn't disagree with you more...   :bash:

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Re: Why Hunters and the Hunting Industry Should Worry
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2015, 04:55:29 PM »
The article is flawed in some aspects.  Anti-hunters are no more organized or cohesive in their efforts than hunters are in stopping them or promoting all aspects of our sport. 

On the last point, I think it is important for hunters to become knowledgeable about aspects of hunting they are not familiar with before making comments out of ignorance.  However, I believe there are tons of issues that hunters need to self-police on...especially when it comes to technology, methods, and techniques.  If the primary justification for maintaining specific technology, methods, or techniques is "hunters shouldn't argue with other hunters"...BAN IT!!  :chuckle:

There are a lot of things to be concerned about when it comes to the future of hunting: Hollywood, Leonardo DiCaprio, and the organizational structure of anti-hunters are not what should keep hunters up at night...access and habitat issues...  :hello:

I couldn't disagree with you more...   :bash:
Thats fine.  You work on influencing how Hollywood and Leonardo DiCaprio spend their money and I will stay committed to access and habitat issues.
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Re: Why Hunters and the Hunting Industry Should Worry
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2015, 07:40:09 PM »
all are good reasons to stay up at night.
"When my bow falls, so shall the world. When me heart ceases to pump blood to my body, it will all come crashing down. As a hunter, we are bound by duty, nay, bound by our very soul to this world. When a hunter dies we feel it, we sense it, and the world trembles with sorrow. When I die, so shall the world, from the shock of loosing such a great part of ones soul." Ezekiel, Okeanos Hunter

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Re: Why Hunters and the Hunting Industry Should Worry
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2015, 10:17:58 PM »
I've seen some excellent points made, and I am in agreement. Something that we should also look at are the manipulative ways in which some of these groups raise funds. HSUS has sent a ridiculous amount of advertisements to my home asking for money. They show pictures of dogs being tortured in China and claim that your donation will help them fight this. I hate to admit that my wife sent them a check before we talked about their true politics and agendas. :bash: Needless to say, they will not be receiving any more money from us. Peta has sent us more flyers than I can use to start my fireplace, and they are always full of sad pictures of animal abuse and neglect. They tug at the heart strings and the purse strings of those who honestly love animals, but would not otherwise support their cause. It is a propaganda war, and we as a community are losing.  :twocents:
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Re: Why Hunters and the Hunting Industry Should Worry
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2015, 01:21:22 AM »
I don't know about some of you guys on here, but, I do not watch, go to movies or support any Hollywood lefty, who is anti-anything I love to do. Ben Affleck is a start, what a liberal puke. It might not be much, but that's how I try and stop their idiotic power................you can't vote 'em out, so don't give them money, from their movies, to try and dictate what we love to do, when they most likely do it themselves. Liberal elites of any sort, have no say or business in my house, ever.

This may be one of the best posts ever.  I agree 100% on what CAMPMEAT said.  If we support anti-gun, anti-hunting, anti-sportsmen businesses we are directly funding those that want to shut us down.  My little pittance that I contribute to the economy is tiny, but I will not fund those that don't support my views.  If you said that you voted for Obama, you are not welcome in my home.  If you oppose the Second Amendment, you are not welcome in my home.

This is something that the outdoor community needs is a list of businesses and organizations that support and oppose the Second Amendment and hunting.  The author of the article that Bearpaw posted has an app for smartphones that lists the pro-gun businesses in your area.  These are the kind of things we need to do.

I think the article is spot on.  Whereas it is impossible for us to agree on everything, we can't fight each other.  As was said earlier, we can't disparage those that we don't agree with.  The anti's do have solidarity.  You have to look no further than the wolf issue in our state.  On the Wolf Advisory Group, the antis formed what they called the "Conservation Caucus" and had 100% solidarity on all issues facing the group. 
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- pencils misspell words.
- cars make people drive drunk.
- spoons made Rosie O’Donnell fat.

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Re: Why Hunters and the Hunting Industry Should Worry
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2015, 10:31:48 AM »
I don't know about some of you guys on here, but, I do not watch, go to movies or support any Hollywood lefty, who is anti-anything I love to do. Ben Affleck is a start, what a liberal puke. It might not be much, but that's how I try and stop their idiotic power................you can't vote 'em out, so don't give them money, from their movies, to try and dictate what we love to do, when they most likely do it themselves. Liberal elites of any sort, have no say or business in my house, ever.

This may be one of the best posts ever.  I agree 100% on what CAMPMEAT said.  If we support anti-gun, anti-hunting, anti-sportsmen businesses we are directly funding those that want to shut us down.  My little pittance that I contribute to the economy is tiny, but I will not fund those that don't support my views.  If you said that you voted for Obama, you are not welcome in my home.  If you oppose the Second Amendment, you are not welcome in my home.

This is something that the outdoor community needs is a list of businesses and organizations that support and oppose the Second Amendment and hunting.  The author of the article that Bearpaw posted has an app for smartphones that lists the pro-gun businesses in your area.  These are the kind of things we need to do.

I think the article is spot on.  Whereas it is impossible for us to agree on everything, we can't fight each other.  As was said earlier, we can't disparage those that we don't agree with.  The anti's do have solidarity.  You have to look no further than the wolf issue in our state.  On the Wolf Advisory Group, the antis formed what they called the "Conservation Caucus" and had 100% solidarity on all issues facing the group.


http://friendorfoe.us    This is a website that allows you to check businesses that are gun friendly, and add whether or not they are or are not based on your experience with them.
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Re: Why Hunters and the Hunting Industry Should Worry
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2015, 09:19:33 PM »
Thank you so much!  That is a great site.
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Re: Why Hunters and the Hunting Industry Should Worry
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2015, 09:27:31 PM »
No problem. I forgot all about that website until you said something.
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