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Offline lokidog

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2015, 11:54:18 PM »
Correct.  The state owns the wildlife (and parts) until reduced to posession.  State wildlife being on private land does not constitute any form of private ownership.
Heck, the state has a dead sand dollar limit of 10.
No it doesn't. About 5 years ago the state prohibited the possession of unclassified marine invertebrates such as sand dollars.

And this is as stupid as most of the laws the state tries to pass to protect the "state" from a non-existent problem or to try to get more money out of its citizens or to try to place into laws the current law/policy makers "beliefs".

Maybe I can get the state to come pick up deer poop in my yard since all the "parts" are theirs, there's a bunch of deer DNA in that stuff you know....

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #76 on: April 10, 2015, 05:27:11 AM »
Correct.  The state owns the wildlife (and parts) until reduced to posession.  State wildlife being on private land does not constitute any form of private ownership.
Heck, the state has a dead sand dollar limit of 10.
No it doesn't. About 5 years ago the state prohibited the possession of unclassified marine invertebrates such as sand dollars.

Are you saying it is against the law for a child to take home a dead sand dollar? If so, can you provide a link?




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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2015, 06:46:19 PM »
This bill passed the Senate yesterday with unanimous support. Not a single legislator opposed this bill!

It now goes to Inslee for his signature, it will take effect in June...

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2015, 07:14:18 PM »
Correct.  The state owns the wildlife (and parts) until reduced to posession.  State wildlife being on private land does not constitute any form of private ownership.
Heck, the state has a dead sand dollar limit of 10.
No it doesn't. About 5 years ago the state prohibited the possession of unclassified marine invertebrates such as sand dollars.
Are you saying it is against the law for a child to take home a dead sand dollar? If so, can you provide a link?
Read the regs

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2015, 08:55:59 PM »
Correct.  The state owns the wildlife (and parts) until reduced to posession.  State wildlife being on private land does not constitute any form of private ownership.
Heck, the state has a dead sand dollar limit of 10.
No it doesn't. About 5 years ago the state prohibited the possession of unclassified marine invertebrates such as sand dollars.

Are you saying it is against the law for a child to take home a dead sand dollar? If so, can you provide a link?

I don't believe so. There is a limit on "Relic Shells" (5 lbs.) and I believe the dead shells fall under this. A live sand dollar is another story and you can't take them
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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #80 on: April 14, 2015, 09:57:14 PM »
Correct.  The state owns the wildlife (and parts) until reduced to posession.  State wildlife being on private land does not constitute any form of private ownership.
Heck, the state has a dead sand dollar limit of 10.
No it doesn't. About 5 years ago the state prohibited the possession of unclassified marine invertebrates such as sand dollars.
Are you saying it is against the law for a child to take home a dead sand dollar? If so, can you provide a link?
I don't believe so. There is a limit on "Relic Shells" (5 lbs.) and I believe the dead shells fall under this. A live sand dollar is another story and you can't take them
Live sand dollars are illegal to take. Dead sand dollars have a 5lb limit.

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #81 on: April 14, 2015, 09:58:59 PM »
We're in complete agreement, then. Just unsure why you quoted me. It's quite clear from all my posts that I think stealing from a private landowner is wrong and should carry an additional punishment.  :dunno:
Trying to read this in its entirety,Stopped on this first.I agree stealing is wrong but i dont agree that stealing from someone that owns private land should get treated diff. than someone that steals from anyone that doesnt own.  :twocents:
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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #82 on: May 05, 2015, 11:20:15 PM »
The governor signed the unanimously supported bill and the new law takes effect 7/24/2015.

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2015, 05:58:32 PM »
I think Bigtex and I see things a little differently as well,  but I for one am glad he's on here and is still willing to share legislative updates regarding enforcement issues. 
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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #84 on: May 06, 2015, 06:08:27 PM »
At this point and time we have So many laws and we are so regulated that it makes my teeth hurt  :dunno: I can not agree with any laws these days because they are intended to take away our freedom ..Our freedom has been heading South for years now ...Just think how good we had it back in the 80's and all the years earlier ..just makes me sick ! I think I am more mad at myself for still living in this state ! Wish it was that easy to move when you have established a business which takes many years to be successful !  Otherwise I would be gone !!!

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2015, 07:40:58 PM »
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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #86 on: May 06, 2015, 08:04:35 PM »
Here's my issue with this. If a guy that hunts is caught trespassing and picking up sheds then he can lose his hunting license for two years and a fine. If someone that doesn't hunt trespasses and picks up sheds what's their punishment? Just a fine? Now I'm not saying its okay to trespsss and puck up sheds and I'm sure someone will read it that early, but how is this okay? If a hunter faces license suspension then a non hunter should get more of a punishment as well. I think we can all see this going toward buying a shed hunting license soon.......

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #87 on: May 06, 2015, 08:08:07 PM »
Here's my issue with this. If a guy that hunts is caught trespassing and picking up sheds then he can lose his hunting license for two years and a fine. If someone that doesn't hunt trespasses and picks up sheds what's their punishment? Just a fine?

Not true. Someone convicted of this offense will not lose their license for simply taking sheds. In order for the license revocation to occur they must have two other fish and wildlife offenses within the past 10 years which is the standard fish and wildlife suspension policy.

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #88 on: May 06, 2015, 08:12:25 PM »
ANYONE that is for any law that specifically goes after any specific group is no sportsman,and should not be looked upon seriously by anyone that feels every user group should be treated equally.
You must first be honest with yourself,Until then your just lying to everyone.

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Re: HB 1627 Unlawful Removal of Wildlife Parts from Private Property
« Reply #89 on: May 06, 2015, 08:16:52 PM »
ANYONE that is for any law that specifically goes after any specific group is no sportsman,and should not be looked upon seriously by anyone that feels every user group should be treated equally.
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Get rid of all the rules and laws against poachers.  That is one group that all hunters should support and anyone that supports rules and laws against poaching is not a real sportsman.  NOT!
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