Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice

[chad s.]

Anyone know the young man who supposedly shot the spike elk on the coast that was featured on Rugged Justice this past weekend? I don't really care who he is, just interested to know whatever came of it.
Thanks

[elkchaser54]

If he is under the age of 18, and actually persecuted his name wouldn't be released.  I hope that if someone actually knows him they don't post his name on here.

[Curly]

The kid was 22 years old.

[BOWHUNTER45]

No excuse for that one .. I liked that show better than the 1st one .. I really like watching North Woods Law .. If you get a chance watch both of them and see how our wardens act compared to ours !

[jrebel]

No excuse for that one .. I liked that show better than the 1st one .. I really like watching North Woods Law .. If you get a chance watch both of them and see how our wardens act compared to ours !

I caught both of them while at work last week....I like Northwoods Law way better.  Our wardens come across as completed butt heads on the show.  Kind of wish I had cable so I could watch them more often. 

What did you think about the first date with a felon involving shooting in remote grant county?      Holy smokes....that warden may have saved that lady from being raped or even worse....killed.   

[bigtex]

Anyone know the young man who supposedly shot the spike elk on the coast that was featured on Rugged Justice this past weekend? I don't really care who he is, just interested to know whatever came of it.
Thanks

If the officers didn't actually hand the individual a ticket the prosecutor has two years to file charges on the guy.

[BOWHUNTER45]

No excuse for that one .. I liked that show better than the 1st one .. I really like watching North Woods Law .. If you get a chance watch both of them and see how our wardens act compared to ours !

I caught both of them while at work last week....I like Northwoods Law way better.  Our wardens come across as completed butt heads on the show.  Kind of wish I had cable so I could watch them more often. 

What did you think about the first date with a felon involving shooting in remote grant county?      Holy smokes....that warden may have saved that lady from being raped or even worse....killed.   

Yes that was crazy and only knowing the guy for a couple hours ..good job on that one 

[BOWHUNTER45]

Anyone know the young man who supposedly shot the spike elk on the coast that was featured on Rugged Justice this past weekend? I don't really care who he is, just interested to know whatever came of it.
Thanks

If the officers didn't actually hand the individual a ticket the prosecutor has two years to file charges on the guy.

That is about as stupid as it gets ...how can anyone think that's O.K ..If your guilty then you should be prosecuted with in a year not 2 ! Usually when someone is in trouble it takes a year of going to court dates or you spend months going to court to tell you that they applied for a continuance 

[Curly]

Anyone know the young man who supposedly shot the spike elk on the coast that was featured on Rugged Justice this past weekend? I don't really care who he is, just interested to know whatever came of it.
Thanks

They really had no definitive evidence.  They couldn't find the bullet; But they had the story of the guy that called it in (and maybe he was the one that shot the spike?) and they had a statement apparently from the "kid" where he said something about he might have shot it.  Oh, and they also had the 2 cases that Cenci said was suspicious because they were laying right next to each other.

The kid made a mistake of saying he might have shot it and if he gets on here and starts talking some more, that would likely be a mistake too.

[bigtex]

Anyone know the young man who supposedly shot the spike elk on the coast that was featured on Rugged Justice this past weekend? I don't really care who he is, just interested to know whatever came of it.
Thanks

If the officers didn't actually hand the individual a ticket the prosecutor has two years to file charges on the guy.

That is about as stupid as it gets ...how can anyone think that's O.K ..If your guilty then you should be prosecuted with in a year not 2 ! Usually when someone is in trouble it takes a year of going to court dates or you spend months going to court to tell you that they applied for a continuance 

It's the statute of limitations which is 1 year for a misdemeanor and 2 for gross misdemeanors.

In the "old days" an officer would hand you a ticket with a court date you had to appear on. However as the state's population increased you would show up to court with say 50 over the people and only 30 would go before the judge, those remaining 20 would have their cases dismissed. With the current system the court can now schedule people so there are no "extras."

There are still a couple of the smaller counties that let officers give people court dates, but the method for most courts and agencies is to not give the person the criminal citation, have the officer send the report to the prosecutor and then the prosecutor can file charges whenever they want.

I have had prosecutors literally wait up until the week before the 1 or 2 year mark to file charges. An example I like to use is you can be contacted for underage drinking at 20.5 and not have your first court appearance until your 22.5.

This only applies to criminal offenses, not infractions.

[idahohuntr]

Anyone know the young man who supposedly shot the spike elk on the coast that was featured on Rugged Justice this past weekend? I don't really care who he is, just interested to know whatever came of it.
Thanks

They really had no definitive evidence.  They couldn't find the bullet; But they had the story of the guy that called it in (and maybe he was the one that shot the spike?) and they had a statement apparently from the "kid" where he said something about he might have shot it.  Oh, and they also had the 2 cases that Cenci said was suspicious because they were laying right next to each other.

The kid made a mistake of saying he might have shot it and if he gets on here and starts talking some more, that would likely be a mistake too.

I don't support poaching in any way, but that was just a classic example of why you should not speak with LEO's...particularly in an uncertain situation like that.  His dad did the right thing by telling Cenci et al. they are not speaking with them anymore...unfortunately damage was probably already done.  Burden of proof is on the state.  If all game wardens were good, honest people I would be less inclined to be so emphatic in not providing any information to wardens...sadly, way too many bad apples.  A warden starts asking you where you've been hunting, did you shoot at anything today, have you seen anything...just follow the Marshawn Lynch model 

[pianoman9701]

If he is under the age of 18, and actually persecuted his name wouldn't be released.  I hope that if someone actually knows him they don't post his name on here.

I assume you meant prosecuted. Assuming he's 22, why wouldn't you want his name posted on here?

[Curly]

Did anyone understand the point Cenci was trying to make when he held up the liver LUNG and said "now that is a kill shot" ?  It was a double lung shot so yeah, of course that was a kill shot.  I would think that even a non hunter would understand that a bullet hole through both lungs and a dead elk there would equal a "kill shot". Just seemed kind of weird to me.

edit - sorry, I meant to say lung.

[jrebel]

Did anyone understand the point Cenci was trying to make when he held up the liver and said "now that is a kill shot" ?  It was a double lung shot so yeah, of course that was a kill shot.  I would think that even a non hunter would understand that a bullet hole through both lungs and a dead elk there would equal a "kill shot". Just seemed kind of weird to me.

I think he was trying to say it was not an accident.  It was a deliberate kill shot.   

[MtnMuley]

Did anyone understand the point Cenci was trying to make when he held up the liver and said "now that is a kill shot" ?  It was a double lung shot so yeah, of course that was a kill shot.  I would think that even a non hunter would understand that a bullet hole through both lungs and a dead elk there would equal a "kill shot". Just seemed kind of weird to me.

As opposed to a gut shot or some other shot which could have possibly been accidental.  A double lunger in the boiler room implies careful aim.

How many thousands of hunters every season imply a careful aim to the boiler room and fail to miss the intended target?  To Cenci, I say get real and quit being a fake......you're looking like an even more dumb%&# to a lot of us.