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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2015, 05:52:12 PM »
  Under normal circumstances, I would be a proud father. A son on national tv.  This however is not one of those times. The young man in the first episode, the one they were tracking in the bushes, was my little boy :bash:  He actually is a good kid, The warrents they were referring to were for unpaid tickets. Just made a bad choice that night.

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2015, 06:02:41 PM »
Did anyone understand the point Cenci was trying to make when he held up the liver and said "now that is a kill shot" ?  It was a double lung shot so yeah, of course that was a kill shot.  I would think that even a non hunter would understand that a bullet hole through both lungs and a dead elk there would equal a "kill shot". Just seemed kind of weird to me.

As opposed to a gut shot or some other shot which could have possibly been accidental.  A double lunger in the boiler room implies careful aim.

How many thousands of hunters every season imply a careful aim to the boiler room and fail to miss the intended target?  To Cenci, I say get real and quit being a fake......you're looking like an even more dumb%&# to a lot of us. :twocents:

In Cenci's defense who knows how that quote was taken.  He could have been explaining anything to the camera crew and they decided to use just that quote for the show because it made for good TV.

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2015, 10:29:13 PM »

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In Cenci's defense who knows how that quote was taken.  He could have been explaining anything to the camera crew and they decided to use just that quote for the show because it made for good TV.
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Having been interviewed for TV a dozen or so years ago, and had the interview heavily edited, I'll add a big +1 to that statement.

A few years ago I was at the Oregon Zoo at one of their new exhibits when the same reporter walked up to me. He didn't recognize me and said "would you like to be on tv about the new exhibit?"

He was a little puzzled when I said "I'd rather slam my b@lls in a car door.."


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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2015, 12:35:57 AM »
No excuse for that one .. I liked that show better than the 1st one .. I really like watching North Woods Law .. If you get a chance watch both of them and see how our wardens act compared to ours !

Ive watched north woods law for years. With the exception of one guy.Those guys are complete dicks, and i hope our wardens dont pattern them selves after them. The Montana Wardens show, now those guys are a great mix of being cool but upholding the law. The north woods guys spend way to much time worry about what a ATV rider is doing on there own property.......

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2015, 05:50:40 AM »
Most interaction I've had with the wdfw has been positive.  I can tell when the warden isn't a nice guy right away.  The type that's just looking to bust you.  But I always have all my tags and gear in order and present them as asked.  Makes the interaction as limited as possible.  Then if its a familiar face I'll bs with them for a bit.  Quite a few I have met are respectful and polite. 

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2015, 06:52:27 AM »
I had few interactions with WDFW officers in my WA days. All of such interactions were positive.  :tup:

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2015, 09:27:38 PM »
i dunno what one has to do in this state to get caught poaching and a actually penalty for it ie: The incident in Ione,WA  :bash:

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2015, 08:51:35 PM »
I just got a chance to stream this one since we don't get The Cable out here.

I think Cenci and the other officer came to the right conclusion: the young guy shot the spike. I also think nothing is going to come of it.

Here's some insight from a former cop: when we didn't arrest somebody or at least give them a citation at the scene, but were going to "refer it to the prosecutor" what that really meant was "we don't have Jack for probable cause." Sometimes you'd need to let something breathe for a while, while you built other evidence, but in this case, The Evidence Fairy is not coming. There's no ballistics or anything like that.

Cenci got the kid to make an admission, but not a confession.  Then his dad got him to shut his hole. That case is going nowhere.

What I REALLY wanted Cenci to ask the guy is the name of the mythical lawyer that will answer a cell call from out in the woods on a weekend.

Likewise the case of the convicted felon at the end hunting with his two boys is a giant bowl of mess. There's case law around convicted felons and family members possessing guns. What I couldn't determine was if one of the two boys was over 18, and thus could independently posses the gun and supervise is younger bro. That one also got "referred to the prosecutor."

Usually I avoid cop shows like the plague, but I thought I'd try this one. When I was working the road, I often fantasized about being a Gamey. Looks like its the same old stuff, just with less backup, but maybe prettier scenery.

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2015, 10:25:54 AM »


Wose, where did you stream.  The AP site shows no full episodes for RJ.

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2015, 12:03:57 AM »
It is my understanding that the "spike elk" case has been charged and arraignment has been set for sometime in the next couple of weeks (I don't know a specific date yet).

As an attorney, I can tell you that I've taken plenty of calls, from plenty of locations, and at every hour of the day and night and on every day of the week.

However, I do turn off my cell phone when I'm waiting for daylight to break over my favorite hunting spot ... and I keep it off if I'm fortunate enough to get one down.  Not gonna' take any calls when I'm enjoying the post-kill celebration!

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2015, 08:35:11 PM »
I just got a chance to stream this one since we don't get The Cable out here.

I think Cenci and the other officer came to the right conclusion: the young guy shot the spike. I also think nothing is going to come of it.

Here's some insight from a former cop: when we didn't arrest somebody or at least give them a citation at the scene, but were going to "refer it to the prosecutor" what that really meant was "we don't have Jack for probable cause." Sometimes you'd need to let something breathe for a while, while you built other evidence, but in this case, The Evidence Fairy is not coming. There's no ballistics or anything like that.

Cenci got the kid to make an admission, but not a confession.  Then his dad got him to shut his hole. That case is going nowhere.

What I REALLY wanted Cenci to ask the guy is the name of the mythical lawyer that will answer a cell call from out in the woods on a weekend.

Likewise the case of the convicted felon at the end hunting with his two boys is a giant bowl of mess. There's case law around convicted felons and family members possessing guns. What I couldn't determine was if one of the two boys was over 18, and thus could independently posses the gun and supervise is younger bro. That one also got "referred to the prosecutor."

Usually I avoid cop shows like the plague, but I thought I'd try this one. When I was working the road, I often fantasized about being a Gamey. Looks like its the same old stuff, just with less backup, but maybe prettier scenery.

I am the mythical lawyer you are so curious about.  What the gentlemen on the show reported was completely true.  I was able to speak with them immediately after the game wardens began to falsely accuse them.  Sorry to burst your bubble, the kid is innocent.  Stay tuned. :sry: 

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2015, 07:46:28 AM »
Thanks for chiming in Holtburg. Looking forward to the update.

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2015, 07:55:38 AM »
I just got a chance to stream this one since we don't get The Cable out here.

I think Cenci and the other officer came to the right conclusion: the young guy shot the spike. I also think nothing is going to come of it.

Here's some insight from a former cop: when we didn't arrest somebody or at least give them a citation at the scene, but were going to "refer it to the prosecutor" what that really meant was "we don't have Jack for probable cause." Sometimes you'd need to let something breathe for a while, while you built other evidence, but in this case, The Evidence Fairy is not coming. There's no ballistics or anything like that.

Cenci got the kid to make an admission, but not a confession.  Then his dad got him to shut his hole. That case is going nowhere.

What I REALLY wanted Cenci to ask the guy is the name of the mythical lawyer that will answer a cell call from out in the woods on a weekend.

Likewise the case of the convicted felon at the end hunting with his two boys is a giant bowl of mess. There's case law around convicted felons and family members possessing guns. What I couldn't determine was if one of the two boys was over 18, and thus could independently posses the gun and supervise is younger bro. That one also got "referred to the prosecutor."

Usually I avoid cop shows like the plague, but I thought I'd try this one. When I was working the road, I often fantasized about being a Gamey. Looks like its the same old stuff, just with less backup, but maybe prettier scenery.

I am the mythical lawyer you are so curious about.  What the gentlemen on the show reported was completely true.  I was able to speak with them immediately after the game wardens began to falsely accuse them.  Sorry to burst your bubble, the kid is innocent.  Stay tuned. :sry:

Nice first post.  :tup: You should post your contact info on here, you might drum up some more clients in the future.  :chuckle:
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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2015, 07:00:16 PM »


Wose, where did you stream.  The AP site shows no full episodes for RJ.

It's a $1.99 per episode on Amazon.

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Re: Elk Poacher on Rugged Justice
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2015, 07:02:33 PM »

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I am the mythical lawyer you are so curious about.  What the gentlemen on the show reported was completely true.  I was able to speak with them immediately after the game wardens began to falsely accuse them.  Sorry to burst your bubble, the kid is innocent.  Stay tuned. :sry:
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LOL.  Well, if you are his lawyer, and you think he's innocent, it must be my bad!  :)


 


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