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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2015, 08:59:01 AM »
 :yeah:
Even if they reach the magic number and are delisted, they will never be managed like they should be. >:(
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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2015, 08:59:36 AM »
If they divide the state we may have a chance  :dunno: :chuckle: That would be sooooooo sweeeeeet I would be packing the next day !

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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2015, 09:00:37 AM »
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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2015, 06:23:25 PM »
I actually support this. Spreading the wolves onto the west side might actually help us be able to shoot them sooner. I vote the send most if them to king county. Let the wolf lovers have them. Sorry for the guys over there that don't want them. I don't blame you!

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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2015, 09:15:23 PM »
I should clarify "suing" the Feds!  It is called, "filing a injunction".

Maybe some wildlife groups should use the same tactics :yike:  File a injunction of behalf of the Mt. Caribou :tup:
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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2015, 09:24:38 PM »
Green Lake pack! Need I say more?

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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2015, 09:41:35 AM »
Why would this be such a big deal, it's written in the recovery plan....

"Translocation is a conservation tool available in the plan that could be used to move wolves from one recovery region to another if they failed to reach the recovery region through natural dispersal. If it were proposed, it would go through an extensive public review process."

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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2015, 09:51:07 AM »
SSS!  bring them over, they make good fertilizer
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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2015, 10:24:21 AM »
Oregon says it has 77 wolves and just a few years ago they had only one they will be all over western Washington before to long. We watched one at mt st Helens two years ago.

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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2015, 06:42:03 PM »
Oregon says it has 77 wolves and just a few years ago they had only one they will be all over western Washington before to long. We watched one at mt st Helens two years ago.

And washington has been stuck on 53 for 2 years, weird isn't it  :dunno:

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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2015, 06:14:17 AM »
Oregon says it has 77 wolves and just a few years ago they had only one they will be all over western Washington before to long. We watched one at mt st Helens two years ago.

And washington has been stuck on 53 for 2 years, weird isn't it  :dunno:
thats because they only count the wolves killing livestock. People have seen how much effort wdfw puts in to stopping depredation so now they take care of it them selves. :brew:
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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2015, 02:57:44 PM »
I hear about wolf sightings all the time here. They are not reported, because the people who might be impacted the most, are most likely to take care of business. Cows, from what I've been told are nearly worth $2500 each and calves around $1500 back. There are a lot of cows in the 2 counties around here, millions of dollars at stake and these guys aren't going to depend on the WDFW to do squat, EVER, about management, nothing.
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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2015, 03:13:30 PM »
Relocate them about nine miles west of Westport.....that's still technically Washington right?

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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2015, 05:00:15 PM »
I hear about wolf sightings all the time here. They are not reported, because the people who might be impacted the most, are most likely to take care of business. Cows, from what I've been told are nearly worth $2500 each and calves around $1500 back. There are a lot of cows in the 2 counties around here, millions of dollars at stake and these guys aren't going to depend on the WDFW to do squat, EVER, about management, nothing.

People have seen WDFW refuse to confirm wolf killed livestock, and when they were forced to confirm, watched as WDFW slow played the ranchers, waiting for the big push back from their environmental partners. It has turned out to be a lose lose situation calling WDFW for wolf predation.

There are a couple of good wolf recipes being circulated throughout the counties now, no pulling the trigger, no evidence, and no more wolf problem for a while. I guess thats what WDFW want, that way they can drag delisting out for several more years.

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Re: Bill calls for relocating wolves to Cascades, Western Wash.
« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2015, 05:38:52 PM »
I hear about wolf sightings all the time here. They are not reported, because the people who might be impacted the most, are most likely to take care of business. Cows, from what I've been told are nearly worth $2500 each and calves around $1500 back. There are a lot of cows in the 2 counties around here, millions of dollars at stake and these guys aren't going to depend on the WDFW to do squat, EVER, about management, nothing.

People have seen WDFW refuse to confirm wolf killed livestock, and when they were forced to confirm, watched as WDFW slow played the ranchers, waiting for the big push back from their environmental partners. It has turned out to be a lose lose situation calling WDFW for wolf predation.

There are a couple of good wolf recipes being circulated throughout the counties now, no pulling the trigger, no evidence, and no more wolf problem for a while. I guess thats what WDFW want, that way they can drag delisting out for several more years.
You should probably consult a defense attorney before you do too much more posting on this topic...I'm sure the right folks already have a lot of information on you right now...particularly if any pets or endangered species are found dead in an area anywhere remotely close to your IP address location.  :tup: 

BTW - Do the folks circulating those recipes do a cost analysis to evaluate potential depredation losses against the cost of lawsuits and jail time?  5 or 10 $2500 cattle is going to be a drop in the bucket compared to somebody's child or pet coming across something that seriously injures or kills them.  Pesky details I know. 
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