Idiot In The Entiat!

[Jonathan_S]

Leave it going.  I want to find out exactly how many people are trained experts in the field of Jeep Recovery and Airlifts in General.

[Buckmark]

15 in Deer Hunting and counting...   


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I could just lock this and see real quick how many people really do like this thread.   

You must have cars to fix....

Lets keep it on track, who cares what section it is in? Honestly HW needs an unintelligent Mule section

Any word back from the Helo company on an estimate for removal?

[h20hunter]

Not yet. I'm very curious but sure don't want to nag them for info. I did find another company in Oregon that does heavy lifting. Was thinking about giving them a call but actually got into work a bit. I know. Hard to believe.

Agreed..who cares what section its in. Relax Nancys.

[bhawley76]

I have a jeep. I understand. Maybe it's a gravity thing that you don't understand. 

It was a joke haven't you seen the sticker 

[724wd]

I could just lock this and see real quick how many people really do like this thread.   

You must have cars to fix....

Naw, he finished my pickup on tuesday!   

[Woodchuck]

I could just lock this and see real quick how many people really do like this thread.   

You must have cars to fix....

Naw, he finished my pickup on tuesday!   

That thing still runnin? Man we done goooooooood. 

[Buckmark]

These guys have experience in this type of recovery.
Looks like they have a cargo load capacity of 6000lbs

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2010/09/helicopter_recovers_wreckage_of_car_that_fell_into_crater_lake.html

[huntnphool]

 I'd be willing to bet that 95%+ of any lengthy Entiat conversation on this site is concerning deer, deer hunting, deer habitat or deer sheds and takes place in the "deer" section.

 Since I felt it applicable and a concern to all of the above, I "purposefully" placed it here, rocket science!

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Yakima Herald has an article about this stuck heap.......

[DOUBLELUNG]

Some of you guys sound like eco-Nazis   

The earth firsters and other tree huggers propaganda has paid off 


take a chill, he can go fix the ruts and plant some seed, pay his fine.. I'm sure he's learned his lesson. 

Tumbling that jeep down the mountain is going to spew gas, oil antifreeze, glass and parts all down the mountain and not all of it will get picked up.  It'll be a yardsale.

The only thing unique about this situation is the guy got stuck in a high visibility area.  There are thousands more sites just like this where moron locals, and moron visitors, think the winter range is theirs for the trashing.  The only difference is, all that is left at those locations is the aftermath, and I've never seen it yet where the jackwagons came back and made any attempts to repair the damage they did.  I want these guys thumped because so few get caught - it's the same philosophy with poaching trophy bucks and bulls.  So few get caught, the only effective deterrent is to scare the majority straight because the consequences are so severe.  I'd say 99% of the guys who poach a trophy rationalize it as not doing any harm.  Same with the tool with the 4x4, when I managed the Cowlitz Wildlife Area in Lewis County, the only thing that kept every stream and wet meadow accessible from a road from turning into a mudbog by the pinheads with the jacked up trucks and jeeps, were a couple of good wildlife officers who ticketed them every chance they got. 

If that makes me an eco-Nazi, so be it.  Our mule deer in Chelan County have been crowded into a narrow ribbon of winter range, between the higher elevations with the deep snow, and the urbanized, highwayed, inundated low elevation habitats.  Meanwhile, the houses continue to creep uphill, and more and more orchards are fenced as the switch continues from ladder-picked, low density large trees that are compatible with wintering deer, to high density, picked from the ground small trees that are damaged by deer.  60 years ago, Chelan County supported annual buck harvests of 8,000-9,000 bucks, plus another 2,000-2,500 does.  Now, an exceptionally good year is 1,000 bucks harvested.  These deer already have it hard enough between loss of baiting, hound hunting, and trapping with predators; wolves moving into the county in the last decade; motorized recreation all winter long on the designated roads; wealthy tribal trophy hunters killing as many big bucks as they can find; browse burned up and weeds invading reducing the forage base; and, as soon as the winter breaks and the deer are in the lowest physical condition of the year, hordes of hikers, bird watchers and horn hunters pushing them all over and burning up scarce energy reserves.   

There is hope for educating the ignorant, who don't see any harm in what they (and thousands like them) do. What drives me crazy is the selfish, do whatever I want, there's no harm in it types, who I think way deep down know they are wrong but really don't care.  The only hope for dealing with them is for the consequences to be so severe, they won't risk them.  Call me tree hugger, ecoNazi, whatever.

[huntnphool]

Some of you guys sound like eco-Nazis   

The earth firsters and other tree huggers propaganda has paid off 


take a chill, he can go fix the ruts and plant some seed, pay his fine.. I'm sure he's learned his lesson. 

Tumbling that jeep down the mountain is going to spew gas, oil antifreeze, glass and parts all down the mountain and not all of it will get picked up.  It'll be a yardsale.

The only thing unique about this situation is the guy got stuck in a high visibility area.  There are thousands more sites just like this where moron locals, and moron visitors, think the winter range is theirs for the trashing.  The only difference is, all that is left at those locations is the aftermath, and I've never seen it yet where the jackwagons came back and made any attempts to repair the damage they did.  I want these guys thumped because so few get caught - it's the same philosophy with poaching trophy bucks and bulls.  So few get caught, the only effective deterrent is to scare the majority straight because the consequences are so severe.  I'd say 99% of the guys who poach a trophy rationalize it as not doing any harm.  Same with the tool with the 4x4, when I managed the Cowlitz Wildlife Area in Lewis County, the only thing that kept every stream and wet meadow accessible from a road from turning into a mudbog by the pinheads with the jacked up trucks and jeeps, were a couple of good wildlife officers who ticketed them every chance they got. 

If that makes me an eco-Nazi, so be it.  Our mule deer in Chelan County have been crowded into a narrow ribbon of winter range, between the higher elevations with the deep snow, and the urbanized, highwayed, inundated low elevation habitats.  Meanwhile, the houses continue to creep uphill, and more and more orchards are fenced as the switch continues from ladder-picked, low density large trees that are compatible with wintering deer, to high density, picked from the ground small trees that are damaged by deer.  60 years ago, Chelan County supported annual buck harvests of 8,000-9,000 bucks, plus another 2,000-2,500 does.  Now, an exceptionally good year is 1,000 bucks harvested.  These deer already have it hard enough between loss of baiting, hound hunting, and trapping with predators; wolves moving into the county in the last decade; motorized recreation all winter long on the designated roads; wealthy tribal trophy hunters killing as many big bucks as they can find; browse burned up and weeds invading reducing the forage base; and, as soon as the winter breaks and the deer are in the lowest physical condition of the year, hordes of hikers, bird watchers and horn hunters pushing them all over and burning up scarce energy reserves.   

There is hope for educating the ignorant, who don't see any harm in what they (and thousands like them) do. What drives me crazy is the selfish, do whatever I want, there's no harm in it types, who I think way deep down know they are wrong but really don't care.  The only hope for dealing with them is for the consequences to be so severe, they won't risk them.  Call me tree hugger, ecoNazi, whatever.

Amen!

[Fl0und3rz]

. . .

Call me tree hugger, ecoNazi, whatever.

That was an illuminating post.  Thank you.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Some of you guys sound like eco-Nazis   

The earth firsters and other tree huggers propaganda has paid off 


take a chill, he can go fix the ruts and plant some seed, pay his fine.. I'm sure he's learned his lesson. 

Tumbling that jeep down the mountain is going to spew gas, oil antifreeze, glass and parts all down the mountain and not all of it will get picked up.  It'll be a yardsale.

The only thing unique about this situation is the guy got stuck in a high visibility area.  There are thousands more sites just like this where moron locals, and moron visitors, think the winter range is theirs for the trashing.  The only difference is, all that is left at those locations is the aftermath, and I've never seen it yet where the jackwagons came back and made any attempts to repair the damage they did.  I want these guys thumped because so few get caught - it's the same philosophy with poaching trophy bucks and bulls.  So few get caught, the only effective deterrent is to scare the majority straight because the consequences are so severe.  I'd say 99% of the guys who poach a trophy rationalize it as not doing any harm.  Same with the tool with the 4x4, when I managed the Cowlitz Wildlife Area in Lewis County, the only thing that kept every stream and wet meadow accessible from a road from turning into a mudbog by the pinheads with the jacked up trucks and jeeps, were a couple of good wildlife officers who ticketed them every chance they got. 

If that makes me an eco-Nazi, so be it.  Our mule deer in Chelan County have been crowded into a narrow ribbon of winter range, between the higher elevations with the deep snow, and the urbanized, highwayed, inundated low elevation habitats.  Meanwhile, the houses continue to creep uphill, and more and more orchards are fenced as the switch continues from ladder-picked, low density large trees that are compatible with wintering deer, to high density, picked from the ground small trees that are damaged by deer.  60 years ago, Chelan County supported annual buck harvests of 8,000-9,000 bucks, plus another 2,000-2,500 does.  Now, an exceptionally good year is 1,000 bucks harvested.  These deer already have it hard enough between loss of baiting, hound hunting, and trapping with predators; wolves moving into the county in the last decade; motorized recreation all winter long on the designated roads; wealthy tribal trophy hunters killing as many big bucks as they can find; browse burned up and weeds invading reducing the forage base; and, as soon as the winter breaks and the deer are in the lowest physical condition of the year, hordes of hikers, bird watchers and horn hunters pushing them all over and burning up scarce energy reserves.   

There is hope for educating the ignorant, who don't see any harm in what they (and thousands like them) do. What drives me crazy is the selfish, do whatever I want, there's no harm in it types, who I think way deep down know they are wrong but really don't care.  The only hope for dealing with them is for the consequences to be so severe, they won't risk them.  Call me tree hugger, ecoNazi, whatever.

Agree 110%.

[Rainier10]

Some of you guys sound like eco-Nazis   

The earth firsters and other tree huggers propaganda has paid off 


take a chill, he can go fix the ruts and plant some seed, pay his fine.. I'm sure he's learned his lesson. 

Tumbling that jeep down the mountain is going to spew gas, oil antifreeze, glass and parts all down the mountain and not all of it will get picked up.  It'll be a yardsale.

The only thing unique about this situation is the guy got stuck in a high visibility area.  There are thousands more sites just like this where moron locals, and moron visitors, think the winter range is theirs for the trashing.  The only difference is, all that is left at those locations is the aftermath, and I've never seen it yet where the jackwagons came back and made any attempts to repair the damage they did.  I want these guys thumped because so few get caught - it's the same philosophy with poaching trophy bucks and bulls.  So few get caught, the only effective deterrent is to scare the majority straight because the consequences are so severe.  I'd say 99% of the guys who poach a trophy rationalize it as not doing any harm.  Same with the tool with the 4x4, when I managed the Cowlitz Wildlife Area in Lewis County, the only thing that kept every stream and wet meadow accessible from a road from turning into a mudbog by the pinheads with the jacked up trucks and jeeps, were a couple of good wildlife officers who ticketed them every chance they got. 

If that makes me an eco-Nazi, so be it.  Our mule deer in Chelan County have been crowded into a narrow ribbon of winter range, between the higher elevations with the deep snow, and the urbanized, highwayed, inundated low elevation habitats.  Meanwhile, the houses continue to creep uphill, and more and more orchards are fenced as the switch continues from ladder-picked, low density large trees that are compatible with wintering deer, to high density, picked from the ground small trees that are damaged by deer.  60 years ago, Chelan County supported annual buck harvests of 8,000-9,000 bucks, plus another 2,000-2,500 does.  Now, an exceptionally good year is 1,000 bucks harvested.  These deer already have it hard enough between loss of baiting, hound hunting, and trapping with predators; wolves moving into the county in the last decade; motorized recreation all winter long on the designated roads; wealthy tribal trophy hunters killing as many big bucks as they can find; browse burned up and weeds invading reducing the forage base; and, as soon as the winter breaks and the deer are in the lowest physical condition of the year, hordes of hikers, bird watchers and horn hunters pushing them all over and burning up scarce energy reserves.   

There is hope for educating the ignorant, who don't see any harm in what they (and thousands like them) do. What drives me crazy is the selfish, do whatever I want, there's no harm in it types, who I think way deep down know they are wrong but really don't care.  The only hope for dealing with them is for the consequences to be so severe, they won't risk them.  Call me tree hugger, ecoNazi, whatever.

Amen!

X2

[mburrows]

Some of you guys sound like eco-Nazis   

The earth firsters and other tree huggers propaganda has paid off 


take a chill, he can go fix the ruts and plant some seed, pay his fine.. I'm sure he's learned his lesson. 

Tumbling that jeep down the mountain is going to spew gas, oil antifreeze, glass and parts all down the mountain and not all of it will get picked up.  It'll be a yardsale.

The only thing unique about this situation is the guy got stuck in a high visibility area.  There are thousands more sites just like this where moron locals, and moron visitors, think the winter range is theirs for the trashing.  The only difference is, all that is left at those locations is the aftermath, and I've never seen it yet where the jackwagons came back and made any attempts to repair the damage they did.  I want these guys thumped because so few get caught - it's the same philosophy with poaching trophy bucks and bulls.  So few get caught, the only effective deterrent is to scare the majority straight because the consequences are so severe.  I'd say 99% of the guys who poach a trophy rationalize it as not doing any harm.  Same with the tool with the 4x4, when I managed the Cowlitz Wildlife Area in Lewis County, the only thing that kept every stream and wet meadow accessible from a road from turning into a mudbog by the pinheads with the jacked up trucks and jeeps, were a couple of good wildlife officers who ticketed them every chance they got. 

If that makes me an eco-Nazi, so be it.  Our mule deer in Chelan County have been crowded into a narrow ribbon of winter range, between the higher elevations with the deep snow, and the urbanized, highwayed, inundated low elevation habitats.  Meanwhile, the houses continue to creep uphill, and more and more orchards are fenced as the switch continues from ladder-picked, low density large trees that are compatible with wintering deer, to high density, picked from the ground small trees that are damaged by deer.  60 years ago, Chelan County supported annual buck harvests of 8,000-9,000 bucks, plus another 2,000-2,500 does.  Now, an exceptionally good year is 1,000 bucks harvested.  These deer already have it hard enough between loss of baiting, hound hunting, and trapping with predators; wolves moving into the county in the last decade; motorized recreation all winter long on the designated roads; wealthy tribal trophy hunters killing as many big bucks as they can find; browse burned up and weeds invading reducing the forage base; and, as soon as the winter breaks and the deer are in the lowest physical condition of the year, hordes of hikers, bird watchers and horn hunters pushing them all over and burning up scarce energy reserves.   

There is hope for educating the ignorant, who don't see any harm in what they (and thousands like them) do. What drives me crazy is the selfish, do whatever I want, there's no harm in it types, who I think way deep down know they are wrong but really don't care.  The only hope for dealing with them is for the consequences to be so severe, they won't risk them.  Call me tree hugger, ecoNazi, whatever.

Well put, some great food for thought.