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In the early stages of a pizza oven
« on: March 05, 2015, 07:12:27 AM »
Been kicking the idea for quite a while. Thinking of igloo style with a 39 inch cooking floor. The size of the white disc. Goal is to have it cooking by June and under $700. Here's the pad 72x84. I'll start building the base in a week or two. Like I said early stages but it's started........... ;)
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2015, 07:30:11 AM »
You must really like pizza.
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2015, 07:38:22 AM »
That's on my bucket list. Can't wait to watch your progress

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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2015, 07:49:02 AM »
Will it double as a smoker?
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2015, 08:46:37 AM »
You must really like pizza.

Just a little  :chuckle:

Will it double as a smoker?

I don't know about a smoker since I have 3. Going to try baking bread and roasting things of that nature. Here's one of my smokers
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2015, 09:31:54 AM »
What sort of temps are you expecting out of it?  Never seen a pizza cooker built big like that.  I think the east coast wood fired pizza ovens run in excess of 700*..

Details man we need details!

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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2015, 09:37:52 AM »
Lamrith, I'm game! just don't shoot me  :yike:  :chuckle:  ;)

I'm thinking 7 to 8 hundred degrees and cooking pizzas 1-2 minutes  :drool:
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2015, 09:48:47 AM »
A buddy has an XL Green Egg BBQ.  He has been doing pizza for the last three weeks.  His temperatures are around 650 degrees.
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2015, 10:06:27 AM »
Lamrith, I'm game! just don't shoot me  :yike:  :chuckle:  ;)

I'm thinking 7 to 8 hundred degrees and cooking pizzas 1-2 minutes  :drool:

Why would I do that?  you mean just because you got me  hooked on this Grendel..??  Yeah I owe you bigtime for that, have to make sure I bring beer!!

HAHA!! Yeah I can convert my GMG pellet grill to get higher temp and act as a pizza oven.  I need to get the laser out next time and get a good read on temps, but it was in excess of 500* and a papa murphy's took4-5min and was done.  That sort of heat works best though when you make you own dough...   I will try to find the link, there is a whole forum on pizza making and high temp ovens.

What are you planning to use for heat source?  Propane with wood, pellets, just stick wood?

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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2015, 10:57:42 AM »
Here's a link guys on pizza type ovens lots of great info. I make my dough 90% of the time not hard w/ a K/A and nothing fancy. Basic flour, yeast, salt, olive oil. Somtime I'll throw garlic, parm cheese, rosemary just depends on the mood. As for the heat source it will be a stick fire thanks to the NW resources  :tup:

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f7/
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2015, 11:08:09 AM »
 :drool: tag :tup:

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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2015, 11:20:15 AM »
Here is the one I checked out..
http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php

Here is what I did with my GMG so simulate wood fired oven, worked ok.  A couple Fireplace Hearth brinks, then the GMG grease drip tray upside down ontop of them.  Put the stone ontop of that for preheat cycle, set grill to 500* and let her run.  The Steel tray will get super heated and stone gets hot too.  When time to cook, put stone down on grate and slide your pie on...  Not perfect, but for $7 in bricks it worked pretty good!



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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2015, 01:12:25 PM »
That looks great  :tup: especially the leaparding on the crust  :drool:
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2015, 01:45:53 PM »
I do something similar with my Big Green Egg and the plate setter.  I let 'er rip to about 750 and the pizzas cook in just 3-4 minutes.
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2015, 01:51:05 PM »
Great project , is it really going to be solely for pizza ? I think you could make both : pizza and smoker . 
You guys make me hungry for one ..... Blacklab are you in Renton ? I must have seen your truck somewhere million times ..... it looks familiar with the stickers . One of my buds is mason and he build himself this in the backyard .....incl.pizza oven . I don't think he uses it though .
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2015, 02:08:56 PM »
Great project , is it really going to be solely for pizza ? I think you could make both : pizza and smoker . 
You guys make me hungry for one ..... Blacklab are you in Renton ? I must have seen your truck somewhere million times ..... it looks familiar with the stickers . One of my buds is mason and he build himself this in the backyard .....incl.pizza oven . I don't think he uses it though .

Damn!!!! that's a beautiful set up wow!.  I have no need for another smoker since I have 3

Nope that's not me. Just some with good taste  :chuckle: I'm in Vancouver Wa
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2015, 09:33:40 PM »
My earth oven.  Made it from ideas in Kiko Denzers book.  Not sure where you're located but Palmer Coking Coal's grey clay is the perfect mix.  Just have to screen it and mix with water to make the mud and cob.  I used wine bottles in the base to extend warmth.  Back of the oven gets over 1200degrees F with 4 sticks of wood.  One of the best things I've done in my back yard.  Wish you good luck on yours.

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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2015, 09:34:59 PM »
Awesome!  :tup:

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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2015, 09:41:50 PM »
So what time will dinner be when this thing is done!  :drool:
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2015, 07:17:46 AM »
pygmy great looking oven. How long have you had it? That's pretty much my future build. igloo style with a cinder block base. I already have a 100lbs of fire clay from Georgies Ceramic and Clay $33.
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2015, 07:57:46 AM »
My earth oven.  Made it from ideas in Kiko Denzers book.  Not sure where you're located but Palmer Coking Coal's grey clay is the perfect mix.  Just have to screen it and mix with water to make the mud and cob.  I used wine bottles in the base to extend warmth.  Back of the oven gets over 1200degrees F with 4 sticks of wood.  One of the best things I've done in my back yard.  Wish you good luck on yours.
can you explain the wine bottle thing?  Are they in the concrete?

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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2015, 08:24:26 AM »
The bottles are used for insulation under the hearth.
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2015, 04:20:33 AM »
My earth oven.  Made it from ideas in Kiko Denzers book.  Not sure where you're located but Palmer Coking Coal's grey clay is the perfect mix.  Just have to screen it and mix with water to make the mud and cob.  I used wine bottles in the base to extend warmth.  Back of the oven gets over 1200degrees F with 4 sticks of wood.  One of the best things I've done in my back yard.  Wish you good luck on yours.
can you explain the wine bottle thing?  Are they in the concrete?
The wine bottles are laid on top of the base layer of mix which is 4 to 5 inches thick on top of your foundation.  Mix is then smothered around the bottles and 3 to 4 inches above them creating the insulated base on which the fire brick (oven floor) will rest.  You don't want to use concrete in an earth oven because it doesn't breathe well and the moisture coming out of the food will deteriorate it over time.  Some people will also place wine bottles upright in the walls of the oven.  I decided to use a mix of the mud and wood shavings instead which gave me the same heat retention. 4 sticks of wood will cook a dozen or more pizzas quickly. And the retained heat will bake bread, then cook stews or roasts and finally dry out the wood for the next firing.   The oven is still very warm the next morning.  When the electricity is off it's especially nice to have.

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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2015, 06:18:41 AM »
My earth oven.  Made it from ideas in Kiko Denzers book.  Not sure where you're located but Palmer Coking Coal's grey clay is the perfect mix.  Just have to screen it and mix with water to make the mud and cob.  I used wine bottles in the base to extend warmth.  Back of the oven gets over 1200degrees F with 4 sticks of wood.  One of the best things I've done in my back yard.  Wish you good luck on yours.
can you explain the wine bottle thing?  Are they in the concrete?
The wine bottles are laid on top of the base layer of mix which is 4 to 5 inches thick on top of your foundation.  Mix is then smothered around the bottles and 3 to 4 inches above them creating the insulated base on which the fire brick (oven floor) will rest.  You don't want to use concrete in an earth oven because it doesn't breathe well and the moisture coming out of the food will deteriorate it over time.  Some people will also place wine bottles upright in the walls of the oven.  I decided to use a mix of the mud and wood shavings instead which gave me the same heat retention. 4 sticks of wood will cook a dozen or more pizzas quickly. And the retained heat will bake bread, then cook stews or roasts and finally dry out the wood for the next firing.   The oven is still very warm the next morning.  When the electricity is off it's especially nice to have.
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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2015, 10:33:53 AM »
This is on my bucket list for cooking.

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Re: In the early stages of a pizza oven
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2015, 11:53:00 AM »
I got me a big ol bad boy masonry pizza oven. I have no idea how to go about making a pizza in it though.I may have to do me some reading

 


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