IDFG Commission tells legislators to keep politics out of wildlife management

[idahohuntr]

Most on here were happy to see that politicians just voted to get involved with the WDFW created wolf management plan.

So do you just not want politics/politicians involved with fish and wildlife management when it's not in your view?

No.  I oppose political interference at such a detailed level even if it supports/favors actions that lead to outcomes I support on the principle that legislators should not direct in such a detailed way fish and wildlife management.  I concur with the IDFG commission statement on this issue.  Politicians set broad policy, commissioners entrusted with managing the public's fish and wildlife will handle the details...that is the model I support...realizing of course there will always be backroom deals by sleazy politicians. 

[mfswallace]

Most on here were happy to see that politicians just voted to get involved with the WDFW created wolf management plan.

So do you just not want politics/politicians involved with fish and wildlife management when it's not in your view?

No.  I oppose political interference at such a detailed level even if it supports/favors actions that lead to outcomes I support on the principle that legislators should not direct in such a detailed way fish and wildlife management.  I concur with the IDFG commission statement on this issue.  Politicians set broad policy, commissioners entrusted with managing the public's fish and wildlife will handle the details...that is the model I support...realizing of course there will always be backroom deals by sleazy politicians.

What then when the backroom deals are done by sleazy WDFW commissions appointed by sleazy anti leaning politicians 

[sakoshooter]

Too many liberals in WA

[pianoman9701]

Ya think?

[wolfbait]

But where do you draw the line at keeping politics out?  Commission members appointed by the governor seems political.  Having Conservation NW on the commission seems political.  The baiting proposals being explored because it is a 'social perception' not a scientific one.  Letting the chemical corporations influence research....

You draw the line at broad policy direction.       

 Legislators should not be circumventing sportsmen public involvement process because they provide a different answer than what a powerful few want.  Nor should legislators direct specific research methods and meddle with normal scientific process.  There will always be politics, but in this case the IDFG commission is doing exactly what sportsmen should expect of their commission and hitting back when legislators get out of their lane...could their be consequences to those folks and might it play into future appointments and vetting?  You bet. 

In the wolf de-listing example, legislators got involved only when a fringe group kept de-railing what was common sense...wolves were not in need of ESA protection.

IDFG Continues to Deny It Violated Idaho Law

http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No%2039%20May%202010-IDFG%20Continues%20to%20Deny.pdf



Poor Attendance at “Idaho Wildlife Summit” Reflects

Citizen Mistrust of F&G Refusal to Manage Wildlife

http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No%20%2050%20Sept%202012-Summit.pdf


It’s Time for Elected Officials to Take the Blinders

Off and Admit Their State F & G’s Real Agenda

http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No%2041%20Sept-Dec%202010.pdf

Anything But Science
"My father was a member of the Wyoming House of Representatives for 24 years. He always fought against granting general fund moneys to the Game & Fish Department, arguing that the moment any State does so, it would destroy our game and fish populations."

http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No.%20%2033%20%20Mar%202009-%20%20Anything%20but%20Science.pdf


Do You Have the Courage to Admit the Truth?

http://www.idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No%20%2047%20January%202012-%20Do%20you%20have%20the%20courage%20to%20admit%20the%20truth..pdf

[mfswallace]

Thanks for the reading material!!

It's sad that other won't read because it comes from someone who they don't agree with even though you didn't write it. I know I read all that folks on both sides of the aisle post to at the very least know what others think...

[idahohuntr]

 

Perhaps you two could go start your tinfoil hat thread elsewhere.  This one involves a state commission sticking up for average sportsmen.  Thanks.

[mfswallace]

Perhaps you two could go start your tinfoil hat thread elsewhere.  This one involves a state commission sticking up for average sportsmen.  Thanks.

WB's post seems very relevant to this thread as it highlights why legislation is sometimes Needed to keep the idfg commission honest 

I know you don't like admitting that sometimes these commissions actually hurt average sportsmen but that I the reality unfortunately