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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2015, 09:21:30 AM »
All things being equal, when I am blamed for the theft of personal items because a criminal trespassed and I apparently didn't do all that I could do to prevent the theft.  We are in a bad state.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2015, 09:58:35 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

The thief broke into a locked garage...
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The car was in a locked garage, so it is different than if the car was parked out on a public street.  To me this seems kind of like if a scumnugget breaks into your locked house and steals guns that aren't locked in the safe.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2015, 10:11:31 AM »
Most of us have already stated that stealing is always the fault of no one but the thief. And yes, the car was in a locked garage. I guess that will probably cover the guy, but who says the thief wasn't one of the residents with access? It was a public area for the apartment residents, not the guy's personal home. For you guys who refuse to say the gun owner was stupid, would you have left your gun in your unlocked car in an apartment garage? Your laptop? An expensive TV? It seems mind-blowingly stupid to me, but I live in an urban area and never leave anything in my car, locked or not.
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2015, 10:25:14 AM »
Yeah, it still wasn't the wisest choice to leave it in the car----locked or unlocked.  I'd like the security of knowing it was in a more secure area.  Just pointing out that there was a layer of 'thief protection' that the thief broke through.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2015, 10:30:21 AM »
Most of us have already stated that stealing is always the fault of no one but the thief. And yes, the car was in a locked garage. I guess that will probably cover the guy, but who says the thief wasn't one of the residents with access? It was a public area for the apartment residents, not the guy's personal home. For you guys who refuse to say the gun owner was stupid, would you have left your gun in your unlocked car in an apartment garage? Your laptop? An expensive TV? It seems mind-blowingly stupid to me, but I live in an urban area and never leave anything in my car, locked or not.

Do they give out misdemeanors for leaving your car running outside 7-eleven, and your car gets stolen?? Just curious?? How many high speed chases involve stolen vehicles that put more people at risk being chased by the police than a single gun in the hands of a thief?? Not saying it isn't stupid.....but what really is the difference? :)

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2015, 11:15:57 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

The thief broke into a locked garage...
:yeah:
The car was in a locked garage, so it is different than if the car was parked out on a public street.  To me this seems kind of like if a scumnugget breaks into your locked house and steals guns that aren't locked in the safe.

My first thought as well when I saw in a "locked garage".  Next thing you know people will give someone crap because they left their TV all alone, not chained up, in their locked living room... and it got stolen, how dare they.   :bash:

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2015, 11:17:10 AM »
Most of us have already stated that stealing is always the fault of no one but the thief. And yes, the car was in a locked garage. I guess that will probably cover the guy, but who says the thief wasn't one of the residents with access? It was a public area for the apartment residents, not the guy's personal home. For you guys who refuse to say the gun owner was stupid, would you have left your gun in your unlocked car in an apartment garage? Your laptop? An expensive TV? It seems mind-blowingly stupid to me, but I live in an urban area and never leave anything in my car, locked or not.

Do they give out misdemeanors for leaving your car running outside 7-eleven, and your car gets stolen?? Just curious?? How many high speed chases involve stolen vehicles that put more people at risk being chased by the police than a single gun in the hands of a thief?? Not saying it isn't stupid.....but what really is the difference? :)

It's a $150 fine, at least in Clark Co., for leaving your car running while it's unattended.
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2015, 11:23:06 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

The thief broke into a locked garage...
:yeah:
The car was in a locked garage, so it is different than if the car was parked out on a public street.  To me this seems kind of like if a scumnugget breaks into your locked house and steals guns that aren't locked in the safe.

My first thought as well when I saw in a "locked garage".  Next thing you know people will give someone crap because they left their TV all alone, not chained up, in their locked living room... and it got stolen, how dare they.   :bash:

So, in this case Loki, you think that leaving a gun in an unlocked car in a garage used by all of the apartment residents was a smart move? Because none of us are saying "hang the guy!" We're just saying that it was a stupid thing to do.And, it obviously was a stupid thing to do because it's gone now. And, there is zero similarity between leaving a gun in your unlocked car in a common apartment garage and leaving your TV (or even your firearms) inside your locked home. The whole population of the apartment complex doesn't have access to the inside of your home. They do to the garage.
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2015, 11:25:52 AM »
If it is a community garage, that is a different story.  I'll admit, I did not read the article, just what has been posted here.   :sry:

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2015, 11:43:31 AM »
It's a $150 fine, at least in Clark Co., for leaving your car running while it's unattended.

I get it, the stupid shall be punished, but when did the paradigm shift that an owner is responsible for the theft of his property.

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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2015, 11:48:02 AM »
He calls it a break in. The car was unlocked. How can it be a break in?

The thief broke into a locked garage...

No evidence of break in? They don't know how he got in.
Maybe he had code or key?
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2015, 12:08:43 PM »
The gun owner must have more than one self defense gun. I couldn't sleep at night if my gun wasn't under my pillow. I would miss the gun before my wife. (But She works nights) :chuckle:

But for the grace of god and extra security there goes I.

I often have guns in my truck. But when I have to go to the big city I empty everything out. This thief took the path of least resistance. A unlocked car.

Had the car   been locked and equipped with alarm he might have walked by. Not wanting to attract to much attention.
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2015, 12:12:48 PM »
It's a $150 fine, at least in Clark Co., for leaving your car running while it's unattended.

I get it, the stupid shall be punished, but when did the paradigm shift that an owner is responsible for the theft of his property.

It never did shift and for about the hundredth time, the responsibility for stealing is always the thief's. That doesn't make the owner less stupid. And yes, when you do something stupid, you often get punished for it. I sure do.  :chuckle: Life is Hard. It's harder when you're stupid. - John Wayne
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Re: "Responsible Gun Owner" Has Handgun Stolen from Unlocked Vehicle.
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2015, 12:33:20 PM »
Just remember one thing, when you own a gun you are responsible for that weapon. When you shoot that weapon you are responsible for what ever that bullet does. If you choose to be careless and illresponsible then you have to manup and face the consequences.  Responsability  is a great thing to have, but misused can be dangerous.

 


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