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Idahohuntr is a new age biologist trained recently, enough said for the education system  :bash:
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Idahohuntr is a new age biologist trained recently, enough said for the education system  :bash:
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Below is some info. you should probably read if you plan on staying with the wolf topic.
No thanks.  I'm not really interested in reading fiction.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - TR

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Below is some info. you should probably read if you plan on staying with the wolf topic.
No thanks.  I'm not really interested in reading fiction.

Yep, that's about what I figured you would say. People like you are the reason we had the wolf introduction, you ignore past history in support of the environmentalists fairy tales and their agendas.


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how come they abbreviate it F&G not FaG?
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It's funny how Idaho hunter always claims that wolfbait is speeding lies and false information yet he never presents any evidence to support his claims. Only offers his opinion on its credibility and refuses to even read or except anything other than his opinions and what game departments claim. 

Personally I've seen a lot of corruption and lack of transparentcy in wdfw, idfg and f&g. This whole wolf introduction has been nothing but a disaster from day one!  Call it conspericy if you want but there is deff more to this whole thing than just wanting wolves back in the USA.  No state game agency has been 100% honest or transparent about wolf issues. 
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

The commission shall attempt to maximize the public recreational game fishing and hunting opportunities of all citizens, including juvenile, disabled, and senior citizens.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.04.012

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It's funny how Idaho hunter always claims that wolfbait is speeding lies and false information yet he never presents any evidence to support his claims. Only offers his opinion on its credibility and refuses to even read or except anything other than his opinions and what game departments claim. 

Personally I've seen a lot of corruption and lack of transparentcy in wdfw, idfg and f&g. This whole wolf introduction has been nothing but a disaster from day one!  Call it conspericy if you want but there is deff more to this whole thing than just wanting wolves back in the USA.  No state game agency has been 100% honest or transparent about wolf issues. 
WDFW seems to just play follow the leader with ODFW
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Below is some info. you should probably read if you plan on staying with the wolf topic.
No thanks.  I'm not really interested in reading fiction.

Yep, that's about what I figured you would say. People like you are the reason we had the wolf introduction, you ignore past history in support of the environmentalists fairy tales and their agendas.
I've never supported wolf re-introduction and I don't support environmentalist fairy tales.  Your preferred method of matching the environmentalists lie for lie is what I oppose.  I wish all the fringe on both sides of this issue...you and the rest of the zealot anti-wolfers, as well as the fringe tree huggers on the other side, would just stop with the ridiculous claims and exaggerations and campaigns of misinformation.  Most reasonably informed individuals can see through the garbage and bs, but to the middle 80% of voters who don't invest a lot of time understanding the issue, its unfortunate they are bombarded with so many lies from both sides. 

It's funny how Idaho hunter always claims that wolfbait is speeding lies and false information yet he never presents any evidence to support his claims. Only offers his opinion on its credibility and refuses to even read or except anything other than his opinions and what game departments claim. 
jasnt- its impossible to prove a negative...like wolves were not transplanted by WDFW.  This is why tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists love conjuring up crap like that.  Prove to me that WDFW did not plant Elvis in the cascades.  I know I saw them.  My UPS guy's cousin saw Dave Ware load Elvis into a horsetrailer and drop him off.  Prove me wrong.  And don't just offer your opinion on the credibility of the information.  And don't refuse to read the articles in the National Enquirer just because you think they might be exaggerating to make a $$. :chuckle:  :chuckle:
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:chuckle: that's not even plausible but that was funny!  Releasing wolves is.  I'm not saying they did cause I don't know those facts but it is plausible.

I realize it's hard to prove...true or false :dunno: also there are many more things on that list above posted by wolfbait that have been proven true.  I'm curious what your views are for Idaho for wildlife?

 
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

The commission shall attempt to maximize the public recreational game fishing and hunting opportunities of all citizens, including juvenile, disabled, and senior citizens.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.04.012

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Below is some info. you should probably read if you plan on staying with the wolf topic.
No thanks.  I'm not really interested in reading fiction.

Yep, that's about what I figured you would say. People like you are the reason we had the wolf introduction, you ignore past history in support of the environmentalists fairy tales and their agendas.
I've never supported wolf re-introduction and I don't support environmentalist fairy tales.  Your preferred method of matching the environmentalists lie for lie is what I oppose.  I wish all the fringe on both sides of this issue...you and the rest of the zealot anti-wolfers, as well as the fringe tree huggers on the other side, would just stop with the ridiculous claims and exaggerations and campaigns of misinformation.  Most reasonably informed individuals can see through the garbage and bs, but to the middle 80% of voters who don't invest a lot of time understanding the issue, its unfortunate they are bombarded with so many lies from both sides. 

It's funny how Idaho hunter always claims that wolfbait is speeding lies and false information yet he never presents any evidence to support his claims. Only offers his opinion on its credibility and refuses to even read or except anything other than his opinions and what game departments claim. 
jasnt- its impossible to prove a negative...like wolves were not transplanted by WDFW.  This is why tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists love conjuring up crap like that.  Prove to me that WDFW did not plant Elvis in the cascades.  I know I saw them.  My UPS guy's cousin saw Dave Ware load Elvis into a horsetrailer and drop him off.  Prove me wrong.  And don't just offer your opinion on the credibility of the information.  And don't refuse to read the articles in the National Enquirer just because you think they might be exaggerating to make a $$. :chuckle:  :chuckle:

"I wish all the fringe on both sides of this issue...you and the rest of the zealot anti-wolfers"

This is just more of your usual jibberish you resort to when things aren't going your way. Generally you try to play both sides of the wolf issue pushing the pro-wolf side when you think you have an audience. You like to compare wolf history with the lies of the environmentalists, USFWS etc. but the facts are not on your side.

People like Tom Remington, George Dovel, and Dr. Charles Kay who don't count on wolves for employment, have probably forgot more about wolves then you will ever know, mainly because you seem to lack the self honesty in searching out the truth.

Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming's wolf history is important to other states that have and are having wolves pushed on them by the USFWS and state game agencies. Pretending that each state needs new studies, or the corruption that happened in the wolf introduction isn't still happening in WA and OR doesn't help the progress towards wolf management/control.

Some people learn from their mistakes, while others "USFWS, WDFW" etc. just keep peeing on the electric fence.





 


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