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Offline magnumb

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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2015, 11:37:22 AM »


Anyways I'm not interested in a continued debate of what I was implying, so this will be my last post in this thread, have a stellar Monday Magnumb.
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Nor I.  I will just say that you and I obviously know more about the workings/nomenclature of firearms than do most firearm owners.  I also have decades (over 4) of working on firearms, to include triggers.  But you and I are not the norm.

By comparison, there are many more shooters/hunters that know little about working on guns than those with such skills and abilities.  I get it, many just don't care and that's fine and understandable.........keeps 'smith's' in business.  My concern isn't necessarily for the 'you and I's' in the shooting/hunting sport, but moreso for the other 95% or so that lacks the desire or ability to make 'bulletproof/safe/reliable' (as much as possible) their firearms.

Most US drivers never look under the hood of their own car and if they did, that's about as far as it goes.  Vehicles are used by most of us many times throughout a single day.........a hunting firearm, on average, is carried a few weeks out of each year and used maybe once or twice.  Why have intimate knowledge of the workings of something used so infrequently.....?

I'm know that you and I don't embrace that concept, but many more do and my simple 'heads-up' was solely an effort to inform those less knowledgable of some of the potential issues/hazards that have and could possibly arise.  Nothing more.......nothing less.

You have a great day, as well...... ;)

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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2015, 06:40:15 PM »
Amusing all the same. :chuckle:

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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2015, 06:48:35 PM »
Just buy a Tikka! No recalls there..👍

So barrels blowing up is not a recall?  :chuckle:

Granted Sako reacted extremely fast and it has been a while.  But still...

http://www.thegunzone.com/rifles-kb.html

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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2015, 07:45:58 PM »
Stainless steel has such a small process window it's surprising you don't see more of that.
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2015, 07:56:33 PM »
Amusing all the same. :chuckle:


Yeah. Amusing

Remington the new Yugo.
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2015, 08:04:01 PM »
Amusing all the same. :chuckle:


Yeah. Amusing

Remington the new Yugo.

What do you recommend fine sir? How bout for custom builds?
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2015, 08:06:15 PM »
99.9% of remingtons problems came from chowderhead idiots not knowing how to adjust a trigger, just sayin.....
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2015, 08:10:45 PM »
Chowder heads don't adjust triggers. A fine custom can be built on 700 action! Then is it a factory 700?

Have one go off on you twice fine sir!  Better rifles now that still do Q.C. Sir.

I should say "chowder head idiots" shouldn't adjust triggers! Build your fine custom and have about 10 inches of Remington in your hand!
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2015, 08:18:31 PM »
Yea, and model 700s are a joke!

Watch Remington under fire.

I guess he means only factory 700's maybe??
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2015, 08:19:40 PM »
Not custom. 700's or properly adjusted triggers...
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2015, 08:29:26 PM »
Hey fine sir modified my post.
Do you think the average guy comes home and plays around with the trigger?
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2015, 08:33:15 PM »
This day and age of the net, yes, websites like this a nd youtube create idiots wanting to "customize" they're rifle... perhaps they should try a high zootin " How a" huh?
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2015, 09:51:59 PM »
Enough, folks. Keep the thread on track please.
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2015, 11:05:00 AM »
99.9% of remingtons problems came from chowderhead idiots not knowing how to adjust a trigger, just sayin.....


More importantly, much more to the point and where our focus should be..........100% of Remington's past trigger issues came from their own faulty trigger design which they continued to produce, install in their rifles and quite intentionally sell to the general public as well as our military personnel for years and years after it became glaringly obvious that their trigger's were flawed and consequently were endangering people's lives.  Had their triggers worked perfectly, as would be expected on perhaps the most potentially dangerous product that we can purchase over a counter, no fixes or attempt to fix said triggers would be necessary.  That you or I or a very small percentage of other firearm owners choose to rework and/or jewel our triggers (and related accuracy adjustments) to better enhance certain aspects which we believe leads to better performance, is again......our choice.  I and others would include handguns in this choice, as well.

Since maybe 5% (at most) of all firearm owners are so inclined, that would leave a very, very large percentage of firearm owners either disinterested or perhaps unable or unwilling for whatever reason, to perform these adjustments.  The reported AD's were obviously checked for customer modifications and if found to have taken place, then they were discounted as being attributed to the stock trigger issues.  Soooo.......these numerous AD's were documented using stock firearms (lock, stock, barrel and trigger).  No investigative process worth considering would do otherwise.

So........no.  Perfectly honest and trusting hunters and shooters purchased these firearms with the expected belief that if they employed all the possible rules of safe gun handling while using their rifles that they would have a safe, successful, trouble free, fun and memorable family/friend/hunting and shooting experience.

These were not 'chowderhead idiots' or any less or more intelligent than you or I, as you would have us all believe.  These were simply hunters and shooters who bought a product from one of the most well recognized firearm manufacturers of all time.  And they did so with the belief that this company would be as concerned about customer safety as much as their bottomline.  They produce firearms......what more potentially dangerous item can the common person purchase?  Who wouldn't believe that product safety wasn't their highest priority? 

No person or company is infallible and no post of mine states or infers otherwise.  It is how we deal with the unexpected that can oftentimes define us.  In this regard, this Remington debacle could have been handled much more quickly and much less costly than what eventually occured.  The fact that they did not take responsibility for these AD's for years and years, certainly wasn't lost on me or many others.  They put out an unsafe, unreliable product, they didn't 'own it' and then some here find it totally justifiable to blame and disparage the average 'Joe' shooter/hunter for either not knowing how to make their unsafe firearm safe or just not attempting to do so.

The next time you buy a new car and drive it home and the brakes work almost all of the time, I'm sure that you'll be completely satisfied with that performance, pull into the driveway and simply and calmly proceed to both attempt to pinpoint the fault/issue and then repair it, on your own time and on your own dime.  Difference is......when you find your brakes unexpectedly not working 10 yards from the stop light/sign, you have enough time to take some sort of evasive action to help minimize your dicey situation.

Have you ever been able to 'call back' a bullet....?  I know that I haven't..... ;).

 

 

 



 
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Re: This is scary!
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2015, 11:07:39 AM »


WoW!

 


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