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Had to pick the most popular opinions, pick your options from most important to least.

Drop the choices in quality deer, elk to 1 choice. OIL tags as well.
3 year waiting period for succesful quality deer, elk with allowing ghost points
5 year waiting period for succesful quality deer, elk  with allowing ghost points
No wait period after drawing permit
limit non-residents to 10% of any special permits.
Pay for OIL tags in order to be in the drawing, still able to get points if not in drawing
50% of quality deer, elk and OIL go to max point holders, then everyone in the draw after that
25% of quality deer, elk and OIL tags go to max point holders, then all available
One tag per species, once you draw for elk your done, from quality to bull to cow. Same with other species, no more waisted tags.
Earlier permit deadlines and results
NO changes to system
Choosing between applying for quality deer, elk OR OIL tags. Not both in same year
If drawn for more than 1 special permit, be allowed to purchase an additional tag being able to fill each successful permit.

Author Topic: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.  (Read 28892 times)

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Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« on: May 26, 2015, 07:49:33 PM »
There was a bunch of good idea's, too many to put on a poll.  Probably have to many already, so I tried to narrow it down to the most popular.  You can vote for your top 3
« Last Edit: May 26, 2015, 07:55:41 PM by trophyhunt »
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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2015, 08:26:35 PM »
)One tag per species, once you draw for elk your done, from quality to bull to cow. Same with other species, no more waisted tags.

For life?? all tags become oil' s ??

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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2015, 08:28:50 PM »
No, you just don't draw any other categories for that year.

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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2015, 08:33:12 PM »
I think you need more options. How about, Only 1 OIL app per year with all the money up front (not allowed to build points in the other 2). Also, how about only one deer and elk choice per year. Either quality, bull/buck, or antlerless. (no building points in the other categories). 2nd tags excluded. I like your 1 OIL choice, but not the still being able to build points in the other two. Just my thoughts.

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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2015, 08:33:58 PM »
I like the waiting periods but I don't agree that someone should be able to build points during the waiting period.

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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2015, 08:38:33 PM »
I don't see much difference of a waiting period or having a minimum amount of points to draw. Also, the game department would never go for not being able to build points, lost REVENUE😁


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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2015, 08:40:20 PM »
Up the cost. ;)

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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 08:40:42 PM »
I only voted for one of the choices: limiting non-residents to 10%. Actually I think it should be even less. Oregon limits non-residents to 5% of their deer and elk tags and 3% of antelope. That's about where we should be, IMO.

As for the wasted tags, there is no such thing. If a person draws an elk permit in the bull category and the quality category, he can still use both permits. Just can't kill two elk. It's up to each person if they want to take the chance of drawing more than one permit per species. I applied for antlerless elk and quality elk this year, so in the quality category I only applied for a point.

Having a minimum number of points to draw would complicate the system even more. If anything, I'd rather simplify the system. This is not a preference point type of system. If we want to change to that, we'd have to do away with squaring the points.

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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2015, 08:53:49 PM »
Shouldn't deer and elk or oils be deer and elk or 1 oil?
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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2015, 11:17:11 PM »
Elimination of categories would help a bunch.  This would separate the meat hunters from the trophy hunters to a certain degree and have options for those in the middle.  There are too  many choices from species to hunt choices. If we could put in one category per species with maybe two options (for hunts) .

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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2015, 11:19:18 PM »
I really wanted to vote but my A D D took over and I lost interest in the poll. lol.Seriously though I think the system is fine,every year people complain about how it is,Seems haters gonna hate.I would like to see some of the people that claim to have over 16 points show us a pic of it.Thats right if you have more than 16 points  :tup: in anything other than an oil take a pic of your last years draw results cover up your info and post it here,I really want to see if many actually have that many. Thanks. No offense meant either if people do have that many its rediculous.And I would be looking for a change also but if not.  :cryriver:
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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2015, 01:18:35 AM »
Cool we should get a lot of pics then.I dont want to hear about these points I want to see them or they dont have them hows that?
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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2015, 05:47:03 AM »
I really wanted to vote but my A D D took over and I lost interest in the poll. lol.Seriously though I think the system is fine,every year people complain about how it is,Seems haters gonna hate.I would like to see some of the people that claim to have over 16 points show us a pic of it.Thats right if you have more than 16 points  :tup: in anything other than an oil take a pic of your last years draw results cover up your info and post it here,I really want to see if many actually have that many. Thanks. No offense meant either if people do have that many its rediculous.And I would be looking for a change also but if not.  :cryriver:
i know it's a bit scattered, I'm not that good this kind of stuff, im just not that organized.  I'd like to take the top 4 or 5 opinions to the wdfw. 
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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2015, 07:49:30 AM »
i know it's a bit scattered, I'm not that good this kind of stuff, im just not that organized.  I'd like to take the top 4 or 5 opinions to the wdfw. 


Why would you do this?  The 97 people who have voted at the time of this post aren't even 1/10th of 1% of the WA hunting community.
   
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Re: Poll for changes to draw system, only 3 votes not 12.
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2015, 07:57:23 AM »
i know it's a bit scattered, I'm not that good this kind of stuff, im just not that organized.  I'd like to take the top 4 or 5 opinions to the wdfw. 


Why would you do this?  The 97 people who have voted at the time of this post aren't even 1/10th of 1% of the WA hunting community.
 
i was hoping for some changes that the wdfw would consider, there are some good points on here.  I've talked to the permit manager in the past and thought if I could put some numbers behind some of these opinions it would create changes.  I'm fully aware that only a small percentage of the over 18,000 members are responding, but a lot of members are not as committed to this site as the rest of us losers!  :chuckle:
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