Toyo R/T vs Toyo M/T tires

[SkookumHntr]

I have pro comp extreme m/t's on my tundra and really like them! Might be worth checking out !

[CAMPMEAT]

What I see with guys saying the MT's are great in the snow is, most likely they used them 2 weeks a year while hunting, but haven't used them for 6 months in the horrible snow and horrible ice conditions. I have and they are horrible. The wider the tire, the worse they are in any driving conditions, right Special T ? I have studded snow tires, Mountain Cats and Hankook Dyna Pro AT's for summer driving.

[DJ_Mack]

Well here it is.  I went R/T's in a 285/70/R17.

[CAMPMEAT]

Nice looking ride DJ.......I loved my Toyotas when I owned them..

[DJ_Mack]

Thanks,  You gotta love them.  I love American made products, but something about those Tacoma's.......

[pd]

Funny thing about tires is that people buy what they WISH they needed but not what they do.  Most people would do great with some A/T and a set of link chains but most people buy M/T despite the fact they mostly pound pavement.
 MOST people dont drive 50/50 on/ off road so they should buy an A/T and chains. unless your a logger or farmer then that may change. If your a logger then your likely a die hard toyo M 55 fan and i can't say i blame you... LOTs of your fellow loggers agree. IMO if a was a generic hunter that liked to offroad a bit id get the  M55... IMO its kind of like the old BFG mud terrain. the best compromise between off road performance and street wear....

I have factory Goodyear Wranglers (OEM) on my F-150, and they truly are garbage.  3 failures in 20k miles.  Granted, they are "P" rated, 4-ply tires (have to expect tire splits on sharp rocks, right?).  Thus, I, too, need to look for better tires.  I absolutely hate to get flat tires in the mountains! 

I carry real chains.  I was thinking 8-ply A/Ts from Les Schwab.  What do you think?

[Special T]

If I were to buy from les schwab id get toyo m55 s. Otherwise id go to costco and buy some bfg at tires in the size/ply of my choosing. Those 2 tires have the best wear on off road imo.

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[DJ_Mack]

My 4runners always ran Toyo AT's.  The handling in any terrain was superb.

[GoldenOscar]

Looks Good!!

[lokidog]

Funny thing about tires is that people buy what they WISH they needed but not what they do.  Most people would do great with some A/T and a set of link chains but most people buy M/T despite the fact they mostly pound pavement.
 MOST people dont drive 50/50 on/ off road so they should buy an A/T and chains. unless your a logger or farmer then that may change. If your a logger then your likely a die hard toyo M 55 fan and i can't say i blame you... LOTs of your fellow loggers agree. IMO if a was a generic hunter that liked to offroad a bit id get the  M55... IMO its kind of like the old BFG mud terrain. the best compromise between off road performance and street wear....

I have factory Goodyear Wranglers (OEM) on my F-150, and they truly are garbage.  3 failures in 20k miles.  Granted, they are "P" rated, 4-ply tires (have to expect tire splits on sharp rocks, right?).  Thus, I, too, need to look for better tires.  I absolutely hate to get flat tires in the mountains! 

Ha, I bought a GMC Sierra back in 2000, it had Goodyear 4-plys on it as well.  I split a tire in my gravel driveway, third one, but at least the other two were on rougher gravel/dirt, at less than 5000 miles....  I'll never buy a Goodyear tire based on this experience.  I'm sure there are some good Goodyear models, but based on their business practice of selling these to GMC for a full sized truck, they can take their tires and stick 'em.

[Special T]

The wider the tire, the worse they are in any driving conditions, right Special T ?

Not sure I agree with that statement Campmeat. I personally like pizza cutters for the mileage gains but  a wider tire does have its benefits of more contact area and an ability to lower tire pressure. The down side to my pizza cutters it they wander bad in the ruts on the hwy we have over here...  Im not sure how wide you think is too wide but im guessing more than a 12.5 width? width and traction are determined by your ability to either "float" or sink to the solid ground for traction. Full sized rigs cannot float they are just too heavy. really small rigs like jeeps, Samurai, trackers etc can float and i have seen them do it leaving full sized rigs with lift and pizza cutters plowing snow. For  most driving I think skinny is better unless you out "wheeling". My personal favorite that i have run on several rigs is the 33x9.5x15. They are getting pretty hard to find. I think the next best tire is what my brother runs now a 255/85R16 which is a 33" tire offered in a 10ply but there are not very many companies offering it up. BFG is offering it however and Im kind of partial to them.

Not related to pickup trucks but here in the skagit valley there has been a trend that more log truck drivers are using super singles on the drive tires and some even on the trailers. They seem to be running Michelin X ones capped up in more deep tread or running  425's which is about a 16" wide tire. Ive heard guys running them run a low psi about 80lbs or so allowing the tire to flex around the shot rock instead of having an impact break. They are also no getting rock damage between tires... Down side is you cant limp them anywhere. One cool trick to address that Ive seen is putting a air hose attached to a glad hand so at least you can get off the hill, or closer to town depending on how bad the leak is.

[Special T]

Loki lots of the factory stuff just meet the bare min due to trying to keep costs down. Belive it or not I ran some p rated tires on the front of my dodge 1 ton. Lasted a really long time. Fortunatly I caught them as they started to seperate and changed them out. They were what I had on hand so I went with them. I thi k they lasted 8 months of hard use. I upgraded a while back to 19.5 steel bead to bead commercial tires. They are working and wearing great, but thats what happens when you only utilize half the carry capacity.

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[Jonathan_S]

Light SUVs and small pickups like a Tacoma can float over snow but these guys with 14.50 wide tires on their one ton crewcabs are just in the business of mall crawling or wasting money on their contracting truck.  They don't wheel and those tires are garbage in the deep snow on those pickups. 

  A 255/85/16 is a good choice for a thin tire and I think they run about $180 for those BFGs M/T.  I'm considering those for my next set of tires on the 4Runner.  Thin tires are easier to fit to more wheels and allow for more articulation for those of us who don't "mall crawl".

[DJ_Mack]

So just to give some feedback after putting some mileage on the tires, they have been great!  They are not loud at all!  And those of you with Tacoma's, there was no trimming required for this.  Only removal of the front mud flap, which scrapped when I went over curbs anyways.  So I am glad that they are gone. 

[T-Dozzer]

Have the same truck as you and JJ, but in long bed. I run the toyo MT on  aftermarket 17s with a  small lift.  Handle great, but little loud on a yota for the freeway. I don't drive it daily so I guess it's still worth it for when I need the extra bite. I drive it often enough in fields/mountain roads where quick tread clean out makes it worth it.
I got them because I loved them on my lifted quad cab Sierra. IMO...the toyo MT is better in full size rigs.
Next time I might move to something aggressive, but a little quieter.