Sturgeon

[JJB11B]

Its got me worried. We have no idea the impact on the ecosystem that so many of us enjoy fishing in. Regardless of the cause I hope they figure it out soon and find a solution (as doubtful as it may be)

[cohoho]

Hanford!!!  Hmmmm!

[ipkus]

Period? You sound positively certain. Somehow I feel we may never know the truth. So for the mean time I'll just stick to my own personal obervations of the sturgeon Thankyou very much!...lol

I provided actual facts that show your hypothesis is incorrect.  The fact that you choose to ignore those and continue on believing a fairy tail proves your signature line true...

[Limhangerslayer]

Have they thought anything about spawned out fish that could be more prone to sickness?   They were mature breeding fish that were dead.   All full of sockeye.  Which would put that bacteria into there stomachs maybe causing their death.   Like i said earlier vernita just above the reach was 67 Sunday.   That's not too warm for sturgeon.   Mid sixties water temps and warmer is when we have our hottest fishing.

[nwwanderer]

Dead ones clear above Whitebird in the Salmon too.

[magnus100]

Warmer water in the snake and plenty of C&R fishing with no die off. Hmm,
doesn't sound like stress from C&R to me?
We all hate to see a great resource like this suffer but let's look to science instead of emotion.

[MtnMuley]

The triploids in Rufus will be their next guess.

My uneducated guess as of now is a combination of the higher than normal temps for this time of year, less flow than some years, and guts stuffed with the big run of sockeye.

I hope they can get something figured out, or I might never get the chance to catch another again.

[splitshot]

  it might be something we have this year that we havent had before.  definately not c & r.     is it only affecting the sturgeon?     have we ever had water temps this warm before.      hope someone finds out what it is.   mike w

[westsidehntr]

Warmer water in the snake and plenty of C&R fishing with no die off. Hmm,
doesn't sound like stress from C&R to me?
We all hate to see a great resource like this suffer but let's look to science instead of emotion.

[singleshot12]

Period? You sound positively certain. Somehow I feel we may never know the truth. So for the mean time I'll just stick to my own personal obervations of the sturgeon Thankyou very much!...lol

I provided actual facts that show your hypothesis is incorrect.  The fact that you choose to ignore those and continue on believing a fairy tail proves your signature line true...

LMAO! did I hit a nerve? Facts? What facts? Do sturgeon really show fresh hook wounds in their mouth? You must be a young punk or an extreme c&r advocate yahoo. If either which sounds like you are I won't waste anymore time with you...... 

[westsidehntr]

Period? You sound positively certain. Somehow I feel we may never know the truth. So for the mean time I'll just stick to my own personal obervations of the sturgeon Thankyou very much!...lol

I provided actual facts that show your hypothesis is incorrect.  The fact that you choose to ignore those and continue on believing a fairy tail proves your signature line true...

LMAO! did I hit a nerve? Facts? What facts? Do sturgeon really show fresh hook wounds in their mouth? You must be a young punk or an extreme c&r yahoo. If either? I won't waste anymore time with you 

I think ipkus is correct also. If warm water and C and R is the problem, why are the sturgeon in the Snake fine? Both of these things are there also.

[JimmyHoffa]

Period? You sound positively certain. Somehow I feel we may never know the truth. So for the mean time I'll just stick to my own personal obervations of the sturgeon Thankyou very much!...lol

I provided actual facts that show your hypothesis is incorrect.  The fact that you choose to ignore those and continue on believing a fairy tail proves your signature line true...

LMAO! did I hit a nerve? Facts? What facts? Do sturgeon really show fresh hook wounds in their mouth? You must be a young punk or an extreme c&r yahoo. If either? I won't waste anymore time with you 

I think ipkus is correct also. If warm water and C and R is the problem, why are the sturgeon in the Snake fine? Both of these things are there also.

Could depend on things like how long the fish was played with or any kind of thermocline in the water.

[singleshot12]

It's the only thing that makes sense..seems some here are way too sensitive and worried about loosing a c&r fishery which I guess I can understand.
 I believe a lot more fish get hooked in the Columbia vs the Snake.
 With some guides C&Ring 50-100 sturg a day there is bound to be some fatalities especially in these warm water conditions.

Another fruitless battle here

[ipkus]

Period? You sound positively certain. Somehow I feel we may never know the truth. So for the mean time I'll just stick to my own personal obervations of the sturgeon Thankyou very much!...lol

I provided actual facts that show your hypothesis is incorrect.  The fact that you choose to ignore those and continue on believing a fairy tail proves your signature line true...

LMAO! did I hit a nerve? Facts? What facts? Do sturgeon really show fresh hook wounds in their mouth? You must be a young punk or an extreme c&r advocate yahoo. If either which sounds like you are I won't waste anymore time with you......

The longer you run your mouth, the dumber you look.  Again, for the slow learners;

1.) No fishing is allowed right now where many of the oversize fish in each pool are located
2.) Fishing effort is low.
3.) They are not finding fresh hook wounds in the fish they are examining.
4.) Essentially all of the fish they are examining are chock full of sockeye.

These are called facts.  There is data and observations that proves them to be true.

YES, sturgeon that have been hooked with 8/0 and 9/0 hooks have wounds/scars in there lips, and YES you can tell if they are recent or older.

The more you type the more obvious it becomes that you don't know what the f you are talking about. 

Nobody is C&Ring 50-100 fish a day in the mid-Columbia.  I am not an 'extreme c&r advocate yahoo'.  I completely agree that they should close sturgeon fishing until they figure out what is going on.  C&R fishing does have stress and mortality associated with it, and anything they can do to protect the remaining spawner size fish should be done immediately.  That still doesn't mean that this die off is because of C&R fishing, because it's not.

There's an old saying that goes something like  '...better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it...'

Don't be a knucklehead.

[Limhangerslayer]

Period? You sound positively certain. Somehow I feel we may never know the truth. So for the mean time I'll just stick to my own personal obervations of the sturgeon Thankyou very much!...lol

I provided actual facts that show your hypothesis is incorrect.  The fact that you choose to ignore those and continue on believing a fairy tail proves your signature line true...

LMAO! did I hit a nerve? Facts? What facts? Do sturgeon really show fresh hook wounds in their mouth? You must be a young punk or an extreme c&r advocate yahoo. If either which sounds like you are I won't waste anymore time with you......

The longer you run your mouth, the dumber you look.  Again, for the slow learners;

1.) No fishing is allowed right now where many of the oversize fish in each pool are located
2.) Fishing effort is low.
3.) They are not finding fresh hook wounds in the fish they are examining.
4.) Essentially all of the fish they are examining are chock full of sockeye.

These are called facts.  There is data and observations that proves them to be true.

YES, sturgeon that have been hooked with 8/0 and 9/0 hooks have wounds/scars in there lips, and YES you can tell if they are recent or older.

The more you type the more obvious it becomes that you don't know what the f you are talking about. 

Nobody is C&Ring 50-100 fish a day in the mid-Columbia.  I am not an 'extreme c&r advocate yahoo'.  I completely agree that they should close sturgeon fishing until they figure out what is going on.  C&R fishing does have stress and mortality associated with it, and anything they can do to protect the remaining spawner size fish should be done immediately.  That still doesn't mean that this die off is because of C&R fishing, because it's not.

There's an old saying that goes something like  '...better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it...'

Don't be a knucklehead.

:yeah:Like was stated earlier,  most of these fish died in an area that is not fishable right now.   I was headed to the reach on Sunday, now I'm not.   That's alright the survival of the fish is more important then trying to get a keeper.   They are doing this moratorium as a precaution not thereason they are dying.   And no I'm not a young punk