Wash. Wolf Advisory Group member resigns amid tension

[wolfbait]

Wash. Wolf Advisory Group member resigns amid tension
http://www.krem.com/story/news/local/northwest/2015/09/18/wash-wolf-advisory-group-member-resigns-amid-tension/72392396/

[denali]

Hahaha..haha.. and Jack field is going to stick it out and make a difference 

sorry for the sarcasm, but livestock producers and sportsmen will continue to get rolled at every turn.

from CPoW website

CPoW said that WAG meetings have usually consisted of theoretical discussions about wolves in Washington and while ignoring the data and management tools from other states. WDFW has also delayed deliberate action or failed to act as it waited for some kind of unattainable consensus from the WAG. In addition, when ranchers did have problems, lethal removal was not seriously discussed despite mounting evidence that the ranch operation was being affected to the point of crippling it.

[CAMPMEAT]

Ranchers and sportsmen/women, will never, ever win against super rich backers of anti-hunting wolf groups and the liberal lawmakers in Olympia and the liberally ran WDFW. It's disgusting.............

[Humptulips]

C'mon, that $850,000 facilitator will make everything  alright. You just have to remain positive.

[CAMPMEAT]

C'mon, that $850,000 facilitator will make everything  alright. You just have to remain positive.

Drats, I forgot about that !!!

[X-Force]

C'mon, that $850,000 facilitator will make everything  alright. You just have to remain positive.

First thing to come to mind for me too!

[wa.hunter]

I made the time to attend last weekend WAG meeting in Spokane. VERY VERY sad to see that hunters and individuals whom actually care about our ungulate populations in Washington do not attend. From my view point the group is definitely made up  of a bias group which I seriously doubt has 2 individuals whom give a hoot about Moose, Elk or Deer.
The conversations only referred to predation on livestock [cattle and sheep]. Never once did I hear the use of the word lethal removal, and all discussion referred to non-lethal means of harassing the wolves.
Folks you got to get involved or forget about wildlife in this state.
Next meeting is currently scheduled Feb.1st and 2nd in Olympia.

[2labs]

But they got paid right? Geeze, don't scare me

[Pinetar]

This was handed out to everyone before Mahoney's speech by one of the WAG members in the meeting.


How important are hunters to Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife and to Wildlife Conservation?

Dollars Paid Directly to WDFW to Benefit Wildlife Conservation

(Figures based on 2014 WDFW data)

•Licenses, Tags, Raffles, Auctions, Special Permits                    $19,164,080.00


•Pittman Robison Dollars collected in                                           $15,239,993.00


•Total Contribution                                                                $34,404,073.00


Hours and Dollars donated to WDFW for Wildlife Conservation

23,583 hours were donated from the hunting Community to the WDFW for a variety of wildlife conservation projects.  The above figures do not account for the unknown hours and dollars that individual sportsman’s groups contribute such as Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, Mule Deer Foundation, Turkey Foundation, and Ducks Unlimited, etc., etc. .

How important are hunters to Washington’s economy?

Hunting specifically supports thousands of jobs, both rural and urban, across the state of Washington.

$370,000,000.00 spent annually.

•219,000 people hunt in Washington each year.


•Of those hunters, 19,000 are from out of state.


•Washington hunters spend over $163 million on trip-related expenditures.


•Hunters in Washington spend over $156 million on hunting equipment.


•Each hunter spends an average of $1,600 a year in Washington.


•Hunter spending translates to nearly $211 million in salaries and wages.


•Hunting in Washington supports 5,600 Washington jobs.


•Hunters pay nearly $40 million in state and local taxes.

$614,000,000.00 ripple effect.

[grundy53]

So it's going about like most of us figured it would?

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[Bob33]

I made the time to attend last weekend WAG meeting in Spokane. VERY VERY sad to see that hunters and individuals whom actually care about our ungulate populations in Washington do not attend.

Folks you got to get involved or forget about wildlife in this state.
Next meeting is currently scheduled Feb.1st and 2nd in Olympia.

That is unfortunate. A lot of energy (and money) went into getting Shane Mahoney to speak, and it would have been a great opportunity for hunters to show their support. It is sad that groups opposed to hunting appear to be more organized, unified, and motivated in their causes.

[wolfbait]

I made the time to attend last weekend WAG meeting in Spokane. VERY VERY sad to see that hunters and individuals whom actually care about our ungulate populations in Washington do not attend. From my view point the group is definitely made up  of a bias group which I seriously doubt has 2 individuals whom give a hoot about Moose, Elk or Deer.
The conversations only referred to predation on livestock [cattle and sheep]. Never once did I hear the use of the word lethal removal, and all discussion referred to non-lethal means of harassing the wolves.
Folks you got to get involved or forget about wildlife in this state.
Next meeting is currently scheduled Feb.1st and 2nd in Olympia.

I kind of think the getting involved part has already passed us by, look at the overhead WDFW are running with. Look at the non effort in confirming wolf pack/breeding pairs etc..

The wolf program is being run exactly as was planned by the USFWS, WDFW and the environmental groups. Remember the USFWS put wolves in the three states that would be hardest to shove wolves on once the truth was know as to the damage wolves cause.

All one has to do is look back at the wolf meetings and the options as to how many wolves would be allowed, look at what we ended up with.

[Special T]

Pine tar that is some amazing statistics. Too bad the financial contribution we make is overlooked. It's unfortunate that more sportsmen didn't show up. Unlike the fake conservationist that show up we have jobs to tend and families also. Facts haven't corrected the direction of the issue. The line in the article that says it all for me is that" if we move too quick we risk a lawsuit" it's laughable because history of the other states show us there will be lawsuits regardless. I believe this process is just to placate ranchers and sportsmen so that there isn't wholesale rebellion. The wdfw has those amazing $ stats and still treats sportsmen like red headed stepchildren.

It's obvious to me that the department is ok with its own slow demise but afraid of a show down with those groups that have little to no skin in the game. I sometimes wonder if I really should have raised hell with everyone who would listen when the wdfw pleaded with us to prevent a merger with don't/parks. Would we have faired well. Probably not but perhaps a bunch of the clowns that run things would have been sent packing. Who knows perhaps there would be some hunting in parks like there is in the mid west

[wa.hunter]

Bob you got it right. He whom speaks loudest will win.
Right now our best allies appear to be tribal....substance hunting and their bio studies are a asset to us. One of the tribes [Makah] showed up and spoke about cougar predation and had other info from additional tribes. It difinitely indicated that there needs to be cougar control to maintain ungulate populations. I hope they continue to have a dialogue with the WAG group.
After the Shane Mahoney talk , the Makah's and a young lady spoke about the benefits of hunting and wildlife, one lady in the WAG group said she had learned nothing, and I heard another lady talking about she doesn't know why she was appointed to the group as she admitted she knew nothing about wolves.

[pianoman9701]

I made the time to attend last weekend WAG meeting in Spokane. VERY VERY sad to see that hunters and individuals whom actually care about our ungulate populations in Washington do not attend. From my view point the group is definitely made up  of a bias group which I seriously doubt has 2 individuals whom give a hoot about Moose, Elk or Deer.
The conversations only referred to predation on livestock [cattle and sheep]. Never once did I hear the use of the word lethal removal, and all discussion referred to non-lethal means of harassing the wolves.
Folks you got to get involved or forget about wildlife in this state.
Next meeting is currently scheduled Feb.1st and 2nd in Olympia.

The last time I tried to attend in Spokane, it was a closed meeting. They don't want our input. They want to manage wolves without lethal measures, ever. I'm not sure how they think they'll control the population, but I believe that's their plan.