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Where are these signs going up? I can't blame the landowners though
A large portion is in Garfield county. I can tell you that much.Sent from my E6782 using Tapatalk
I was just curious what general area the landowners closed their land.
Anyone who hunts that way on private land might want to start calling some of the numbers on that sign. I don't think they are coming down unless we get a fire under the wdfw's ass to get this straightened out.
Quote from: SemperFidelis97 on October 13, 2015, 01:33:58 PMAnyone who hunts that way on private land might want to start calling some of the numbers on that sign. I don't think they are coming down unless we get a fire under the wdfw's ass to get this straightened out.There's a whole lot of "I'll take my ball and go home attitude" coming in to play here with the landowners.The system is not in any way perfect, and is in need of some major changes. They have been needed for years. LHP's, transferrable tags, ranching for wildlife is never a good thing, but it's been commonplace for quite a while now. How many complained years ago? For those that think this is the advent of pay to play, well you haven't been looking very hard. If you want to raise cane, go ahead and do so. But do so in a productive manner. There are a number of fatal flaws in WDFWs public access programs, issuance of landowner tags, allowance of LHPs, and so on. I would suggest that rather than shooting from the hip, you actually do some research and come up with productive solutions. You'll find no better catalyst for change than what is happening right now.
Quote from: JLS on October 13, 2015, 04:50:14 PMQuote from: SemperFidelis97 on October 13, 2015, 01:33:58 PMAnyone who hunts that way on private land might want to start calling some of the numbers on that sign. I don't think they are coming down unless we get a fire under the wdfw's ass to get this straightened out.There's a whole lot of "I'll take my ball and go home attitude" coming in to play here with the landowners.The system is not in any way perfect, and is in need of some major changes. They have been needed for years. LHP's, transferrable tags, ranching for wildlife is never a good thing, but it's been commonplace for quite a while now. How many complained years ago? For those that think this is the advent of pay to play, well you haven't been looking very hard. If you want to raise cane, go ahead and do so. But do so in a productive manner. There are a number of fatal flaws in WDFWs public access programs, issuance of landowner tags, allowance of LHPs, and so on. I would suggest that rather than shooting from the hip, you actually do some research and come up with productive solutions. You'll find no better catalyst for change than what is happening right now.I don't recall any land owner, or business being given the premium tags that Bennett lumber was given in exchange for public access. Maybe you can set me straight on that issue. I think some damage permits for does, or cow elk are not anywhere near on the level of what they were given. I do think there are much better ways for this to be handled, and I sent my thoughts into the commission where I am sure they will take very seriously . I don't know how close you are to this issue, but this was ran through the proper channels to get resolved, and the issue was ignored by the power that be. This isn't a childish game the landowners are playing, they are doing the only thing they can to bring attention to this issue.
Quote from: SemperFidelis97 on October 13, 2015, 05:21:58 PMQuote from: JLS on October 13, 2015, 04:50:14 PMQuote from: SemperFidelis97 on October 13, 2015, 01:33:58 PMAnyone who hunts that way on private land might want to start calling some of the numbers on that sign. I don't think they are coming down unless we get a fire under the wdfw's ass to get this straightened out.There's a whole lot of "I'll take my ball and go home attitude" coming in to play here with the landowners.The system is not in any way perfect, and is in need of some major changes. They have been needed for years. LHP's, transferrable tags, ranching for wildlife is never a good thing, but it's been commonplace for quite a while now. How many complained years ago? For those that think this is the advent of pay to play, well you haven't been looking very hard. If you want to raise cane, go ahead and do so. But do so in a productive manner. There are a number of fatal flaws in WDFWs public access programs, issuance of landowner tags, allowance of LHPs, and so on. I would suggest that rather than shooting from the hip, you actually do some research and come up with productive solutions. You'll find no better catalyst for change than what is happening right now.I don't recall any land owner, or business being given the premium tags that Bennett lumber was given in exchange for public access. Maybe you can set me straight on that issue. I think some damage permits for does, or cow elk are not anywhere near on the level of what they were given. I do think there are much better ways for this to be handled, and I sent my thoughts into the commission where I am sure they will take very seriously . I don't know how close you are to this issue, but this was ran through the proper channels to get resolved, and the issue was ignored by the power that be. This isn't a childish game the landowners are playing, they are doing the only thing they can to bring attention to this issue.You're missing the bigger picture. The resolution should not be whether or not Bennett Lumber should have been granted LHP status. The resolution should be the entire landowner permit structure and compensation program for allowing public access.They can bring all of the attention they need to this matter right now without giving some poor Joe Schmoe the screws. It's called negotiation, and it doesn't always start and immediately end with "no, we don't like that, Mr. President wants the missiles fired".
I agree, JLS what would you like to see happen? Average joe has more throw than landowners. I'm having trouble determining which side of the table your on.
