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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2015, 10:52:21 PM »
The buck in the attached image was a lowland blacktail from Jefferson County. If you look at the picture, you can see he was built like a bull and is my largest bodied blacktail, although I have shot a few that were close to his body size. He weighed 190lbs hanging with his skin, head, front feet, bloodshot and fat trimmed off. If you estimate the weight of the removed body mass, he was easily 250 plus pounds. I think like people, deer from the same species come in a variation of sizes, even from the same area of harvest.

That's what I'm talking about. 

There really are some really massive blacktail bucks out there and this is an excellent example of one.  I've seen two and heard of a few more, they are not common at all, but they exist.  You say this one is built like a bull, that sounds a lot like the massive one I have seen the last couple of years, he looks like a Welsh pony standing next to another mature buck and a mature doe standing next to him looks positively diminutive.   
:dunno: The thread is about San Juan blacktails, but this deer is from the mainland is it not? Seeing a deer this size in the San Juans would be extremely rare.
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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #61 on: November 02, 2015, 11:18:59 PM »
Rare?  Sure.  But he might just be hiding in that big bush on N. Orcas, after swimming over from the mainland (via Guemes, Cypress, Blakely Is.) on a calm August night, when the waters were calm and tides were ebbing!   :chuckle:
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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2015, 02:22:24 AM »
The buck in the attached image was a lowland blacktail from Jefferson County. If you look at the picture, you can see he was built like a bull and is my largest bodied blacktail, although I have shot a few that were close to his body size. He weighed 190lbs hanging with his skin, head, front feet, bloodshot and fat trimmed off. If you estimate the weight of the removed body mass, he was easily 250 plus pounds. I think like people, deer from the same species come in a variation of sizes, even from the same area of harvest.

That's what I'm talking about. 

There really are some really massive blacktail bucks out there and this is an excellent example of one.  I've seen two and heard of a few more, they are not common at all, but they exist.  You say this one is built like a bull, that sounds a lot like the massive one I have seen the last couple of years, he looks like a Welsh pony standing next to another mature buck and a mature doe standing next to him looks positively diminutive.   
:dunno: The thread is about San Juan blacktails, but this deer is from the mainland is it not? Seeing a deer this size in the San Juans would be extremely rare.

Nope, it started off about the size of SJ blacktails vs S Puget Sound island blacktails and then there was skepticism expressed regarding blacktails in general breaking the 250 lb mark. And yes it appears that seeing a deer this size in the SJs would be extremely unlikely, the consensus appears that it is exceedingly rare, but not unheard of regarding coastal blacktails in general. 

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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2015, 06:18:01 AM »
Blacktail in the San Juans. Biggest one I have seen out there.

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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2015, 06:47:13 AM »
On the island I hunt a mature three point is a trophy. Four points are extremely rare.
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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #65 on: November 04, 2015, 11:34:27 PM »
There were some Brusier deer on McNeil Island, and no hunting for...40 years? how do we explain that?
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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2015, 08:22:35 AM »
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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2015, 06:22:24 PM »
No skeptism on other areas,  other than a blacktail deer hanging at a butcher shop with no head, hide, guts or legs.  To answer the question asked by the thread starter, the san juan island area bucks are dinks and don't compare to mainland or south sound bucks, in order to do a head mount a taxidermist would have to use a coyote head.  They really are that small. 

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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2015, 10:07:17 PM »
Saw this pic on craigslist for private hunts in 636 i think but undoubtably the largest i can recall in picture

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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2015, 10:46:35 PM »
No skeptism on other areas,  other than a blacktail deer hanging at a butcher shop with no head, hide, guts or legs.  To answer the question asked by the thread starter, the san juan island area bucks are dinks and don't compare to mainland or south sound bucks, in order to do a head mount a taxidermist would have to use a coyote head.  They really are that small.
I've had two taxidermists happy to get mature BT capes from Decatur, a little bigger than coyotes, I would guess....

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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #70 on: November 08, 2015, 01:05:12 PM »
No skeptism on other areas,  other than a blacktail deer hanging at a butcher shop with no head, hide, guts or legs.  To answer the question asked by the thread starter, the san juan island area bucks are dinks and don't compare to mainland or south sound bucks, in order to do a head mount a taxidermist would have to use a coyote head.  They really are that small.

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  Squirrel sized yearlings.
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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2015, 10:42:57 PM »
Errr, I mean, you are all correct, tiny deer, stay away, not worth the effort....   :rolleyes:

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Re: San Juan blacktails.
« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2015, 11:20:19 PM »
You're right lokidog but I would love to get me one from your area I love those deer they are way to cool looking if there's ever a chance I would love a chance to come out there i trully would love to get one

 


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