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Offline Bob33

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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #120 on: November 14, 2015, 08:48:46 AM »
So, is there an easy way to tell the difference between a Rocky Mountain and a Roosevelt? Or is it just geographic location?  :dunno:  I was always told that all the elk up here were Rocky  :dunno:
Boone & Crockett makes their determination geographically with I-5 the dividing line.
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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #121 on: November 14, 2015, 08:58:50 AM »
What has happened there is a made up version called the cascade Rosie and for the blacktail

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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #122 on: November 14, 2015, 01:09:40 PM »
Here is the deal why are people even talking about this? the guy is a joke, the quality of elk and deer he has gotten another joke.

Im sure he will be locked up eventually and the story is over.

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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #123 on: November 14, 2015, 09:41:41 PM »
Yikes

reminds me of another story on here where a member got nailed and lost his trophy but we haven't heard a word. 

The kids missed the other good buck two times. The bulls were taken in the modern.....and it's been long enough to score that pig.

Too bad he didn't just ask for forgiveness...

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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #124 on: November 16, 2015, 11:31:55 AM »
Any new news guys?

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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #125 on: November 16, 2015, 11:42:04 AM »
What has happened there is a made up version called the cascade Rosie and for the blacktail
There is a Washington State Record book That has the Cascade Rosie and the Cascade Blacktail (Benchlegs) as additional species categories. Boone and crockett do not recognize either.

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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #126 on: November 16, 2015, 11:54:05 AM »
Little known fact: It's a bigger federal penalty to illegally take fish/wildlife on a National Wildlife Refuge then it is to do so in a National Park...

Key word is illegally. Hunting is allowed in certain cases in National Wildlife Refuges.
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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #127 on: November 16, 2015, 12:11:53 PM »
Yikes

reminds me of another story on here where a member got nailed and lost his trophy but we haven't heard a word. 

The kids missed the other good buck two times. The bulls were taken in the modern.....and it's been long enough to score that pig.

Too bad he didn't just ask for forgiveness...
Are guys talking about the thread with the trailcam on the wrong property and a masher buck was taken?  Did the whole thread get taken down?
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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #128 on: November 16, 2015, 12:26:27 PM »
Yikes

reminds me of another story on here where a member got nailed and lost his trophy but we haven't heard a word. 

The kids missed the other good buck two times. The bulls were taken in the modern.....and it's been long enough to score that pig.

Too bad he didn't just ask for forgiveness...
Are guys talking about the thread with the trailcam on the wrong property and a masher buck was taken?  Did the whole thread get taken down?

parts of it are still up.  but i heard the judgement has been made, but can't confirm if the penalty is what really happened.

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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #129 on: November 16, 2015, 12:50:35 PM »
I think you guys may be reading into my message wrong. Not insulting anyone, just simply stating the facts. The guy shoots a 357 round that he custom loads. The cartridge is about 3 inches long. He has a 100yd and 200yd gun. He's extremely accurate at both yardages. There's video of the shot, the animal going down twice, and then turning and going towards the refuge but through a timber patch that has no fence or signage behind it to mark the property line. The guy who blocked the road the day before was acting like a fool telling some old guy he wasn't going to move because he was watching some elk, but it was a county road and he had no right to do that. The old guy is a friend of the land owner and want too happy. The guy had the outfitter info in the window of his truck, so he took it upon himself to call the authorities and tell them what he thought was going on. Like I said, from there, it was all by the books, minus the slip up on crossing the unmarked line. The bull was shot well within the private proprty. The feds wouldn't look at the video and didn't care about the recovery of the animal, and unfortunately the local authorities didn't have much to do with it since they were trumped in the situation. No permission was being given to go try and recover the bull. It has been in the past, but not this time!

I really hope this helps people out. Regardless of past issues or your personal take on the outfitter, this is far from what everyone speculated.

As for the question, who am I? I'm a nobody. I'm just the guy with the facts, about this incedent, who loves killing elk and deer with his bow.

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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #130 on: November 16, 2015, 12:56:09 PM »
FordTough,in his post describing what he says happened he says that the hunter was shooting a 357 pistol with cartridges about 3 inches long, even the 357 Maximum cartridge is only 2 inches long, so to be 3 inches long it would have to be a one off wildcat loading and a custom pistol. Seems odd to me.
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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #131 on: November 16, 2015, 01:22:57 PM »
The next morning the outfitter owner and guide went to recover the bull and briefly hit an unmarked portion of the refuge in their sweep of the area.

Gee, you'd think a good guide would have a GPS with the refuge co-ordinates plugged in so they wouldn't make that mistake.
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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #132 on: November 16, 2015, 04:10:26 PM »
Kinda funny I posted a thread awhile back about a kid Who got trespass while hunting, lost his animal and got a trespassing ticket along with that you can loose your liscense for up to 2 years. Hint hint

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Re: Elk shot on Conboy refuge
« Reply #133 on: November 16, 2015, 06:19:54 PM »

FordTough,in his post describing what he says happened he says that the hunter was shooting a 357 pistol with cartridges about 3 inches long, even the 357 Maximum cartridge is only 2 inches long, so to be 3 inches long it would have to be a one off wildcat loading and a custom pistol. Seems odd to me.
Thompson contender in .357 herret maybe?  I have one.

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