Baiting on the chopping block

[jasnt]

For those of you that are against deer/elk baiting. How do you feel about bear baiting (where legal)or coyote baiting? How bout bait for fishing, or crab pots? Sure there are other ways to hunt bear or coyote, artificial lures or artificial "baits" for fishing and crabing.  How is deer and elk any diffrent?  I just don't understand how or why any one would want to limit our vanishing opertunetys for sportsman!

[creature522]

Haha his reasoning is selfish! Aren't we all making our arguments for selfish reasons? Especially if we benefit financially from the subject.  Also his article is based on his location and his perceptions and it may not pertain to every state and every situation. Ignorant?


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[Curly]

I can understand being against truck loads of bait. So what would be wrong with simply placing a limit on the amount of bait a person can set out? Seems like a fairly simple solution to what appears to be the problem.

[Blacktail Sniper]

For those of you that are against deer/elk baiting. How do you feel about bear baiting (where legal)or coyote baiting? How bout bait for fishing, or crab pots? Sure there are other ways to hunt bear or coyote, artificial lures or artificial "baits" for fishing and crabing.  How is deer and elk any diffrent?  I just don't understand how or why any one would want to limit our vanishing opertunetys for sportsman!

 

Add in electronic callers....unfair advantage,
Hunting during the rut....unfair advantage,
Electronic fish finders....unfair advantage,
Lazer rangefinders....unfair advantage,

Can tear a building down one brick at a time if you are patient, and most won't notice or care until it is too late and it falls down!!

Fellow hunters are, and sadly will always be, our own worse enemy, until it is too late!!

[Blacktail Sniper]

I can understand being against truck loads of bait. So what would be wrong with simply placing a limit on the amount of bait a person can set out? Seems like a fairly simple solution to what appears to be the problem.

Yes, best way to make a bad situation more palatable in general.

Nobody wants more rules and restrictions, but sometimes that is the only reasonable way to avoid the total banning of it...

[grundy53]

Haha his reasoning is selfish! Aren't we all making our arguments for selfish reasons? Especially if we benefit financially from the subject.  Also his article is based on his location and his perceptions and it may not pertain to every state and every situation. Ignorant?


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Nope. I do not believe I'm standing up for baiting for selfish reasons seeing as how I've never hunted over bait. I'm just trying to stand up for my fellow hunter.

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[JimmyHoffa]

For those of you that are against deer/elk baiting. How do you feel about bear baiting (where legal)or coyote baiting? How bout bait for fishing, or crab pots? Sure there are other ways to hunt bear or coyote, artificial lures or artificial "baits" for fishing and crabing.  How is deer and elk any diffrent?  I just don't understand how or why any one would want to limit our vanishing opertunetys for sportsman!

 

Add in electronic callers....unfair advantage,
Hunting during the rut....unfair advantage,
Electronic fish finders....unfair advantage,
Lazer rangefinders....unfair advantage,

Can tear a building down one brick at a time if you are patient, and most won't notice or care until it is too late and it falls down!!

Fellow hunters are, and sadly will always be, our own worse enemy, until it is too late!!

One of the problems with wishing everybody did what/how you do things is when it actually happens--the unintended consequences.
If a guy with 5 acres can't bait to pull animals off of golf courses, hobby farms, housing developments then he's going to do what?  Possibly be getting timber passes or hitting the national forest or driving the roads, increasing all the competition amongst the anti baiters. 

[zike]

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No change !     

Dec 15-April 1 is when they could use the extra food. I feed year round and from dec-march I have alfalfa out

That's great. I think it will still be legal to feed if baiting is banned as long as you don't hunt over it. The question is are you still going to feed if you can't hunt there?
Washington is one of the few states that allow baiting. The rest of the hunters in the country  survive without luring there deer in with a pile of apples.  The baiters on here are running around like chicken little, crying the sky is falling. It will be all right if its banned, you'll just have to adept and hunt harder.

I beg to disagree with your statement, can you back up the no baiting at all in the majority of States? Most allow some form of baiting ( or better stated, many do, but they also have restrictions)  I already know the number.  I have had a long absence from this site, for many reasons.  However, my name is mentioned on or in this thread quite a bit.  Thankfully not many bad names.. :-)  Appreciate the input, and welcome any via messages or emails,

Ren

I found this article from Field and stream that states 28 states ban baiting, thats a majority. It also gives some good reasons for a baiting ban. Really bad a hunting mag calling for a baiting ban.
 

That is one of the most ignorant articles I've ever read. His reasoning is selfish and poorly thought out /Ignorant. Also, 22 states still allow baiting which is a far cry from " a few states" like you claimed earlier. It's nearly half.

Of the 22 states that allow baiting over 1/3 restrict baiting which most of the baiters oppose.

[zike]

Baiting isn't  hunting. It’s a carnival shooting gallery."

[grundy53]

Baiting isn't  hunting. It’s a carnival shooting gallery."

No it's not. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

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[jasnt]

Baiting isn't  hunting. It’s a carnival shooting gallery."

No it's not. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

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People act like you can just toss out some bait and deer come running. It's not like that at all! 99% of all activity will be at night. Most big bucks will not approach bait at all. Some will simply go down wind then leave. Most of the deer will be does and young bucks and like I said at night. It takes along time to get any regular visitors and even then most will be after shooting light. It's no diffrent than using buck bombs or artificial scrapes. It's not a shooting gallery. Not even close. It takes a lot of work and $ to get a good deer with bait and most of the time you have to set up a long ways from the bait on a travel route to the bait in order to get a deer before dark.

Your comment comes across as just stirring the pot?
Have you even hunted over bait or seen some one hunt over bait that makes you think it's a shooting gallery?

[zike]

I've seen a bunch of hunts on TV, them deer come running in like bees to honey. If it wasn't easy and didn't work, how do the guides advertise what 99% success ratio. And you guys would fight so hard to save it.

[Curly]

TV is not reality. It's called editing.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

TV is not reality. It's called editing.

I'm so disappointed. 

[emac]

Baiting isn't  hunting. It’s a carnival shooting gallery."

With this comment it shows that you have no clue what you are talking about. This hear was the first year I ever baited. I spent countless hrs and money doing this. I had some nice bucks coming in on trail cam. Once archery season started i spent countless hrs in my blind and tree stand. Did any of these bucks show up....no. So your idea of a shooting gallery are false. I have a buddy that has been baiting for 5 years and this year was his first time getting a deer over bait. We around dumping truck loads of bait. We use 50lb bags of grain because are sites aren't accessible by vehicle. Even though I didn't get one of the bucks I was hoping to get i had the best hunting season ever. I spent far more time in the woods this year than ever before. And that is what I enjoyed more than anything.

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