Looks like there is officially a new pack in the Methow

[grundy53]

Looks like they are finally admitting there is more than one pack in the Methow.

http://www.fws.gov/news/ShowNews.cfm?ID=3A72EB23-A4B7-EDB5-C7BD1CE75668DED6

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[boneaddict]

Lol

[JimmyHoffa]

The guys I know from Mazama talk about a Loup-Loup pack that has been there for at least 50 years.   

[Bango skank]

These things always say that wolves are federally listed as endangered, but never say that the northern rockies population has been delisted for quite some time.  Just another subtle way of spreading misinformation to direct the opinions of uneducated voters.

[grundy53]

Lol

I thought you would like this.

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[bobcat]

I'm not sure "finally admitting" there is another wolf pack is the proper terminology to use.

That makes it sound like they are trying to hide the fact that there is another pack.

It takes time and a lot of work by the biologists to officially confirm a pack. Don't they have to actually have proof of a pair of wolves with a litter of pups?

From the article: 

  Following up on a cluster of public wolf sightings in north-central Washington, WDFW, working in coordination with USDA Wildlife Services and the Service, identified a group of wolves previously undocumented in the area. Further investigation, including ground surveys, confirmed the presence and consistent use of the area by multiple wolves.

[boneaddict]

They have a couple more to "discover".   

Its really hard to take these guys seriously

[MtnMuley]

If you don't think "finally admitting" isn't a correct analysis, then you have issues......oh, wait...............

[boneaddict]

So much for the fast members of the all inclusive lookout pack.   They seemed to be able to be in several places at once.

[bobcat]

If you don't think "finally admitting" isn't a correct analysis, then you have issues......oh, wait...............

No I sure don't think it's correct. They can't just take a few wolf sightings reported by the general public and call it a pack. Try to spin it that way if you like, but reasonable people aren't going to buy into these kinds of conspiracy theories. A little common sense goes a long way.

[JimmyHoffa]

If you don't think "finally admitting" isn't a correct analysis, then you have issues......oh, wait...............

No I sure don't think it's correct. They can't just take a few wolf sightings reported by the general public and call it a pack. Try to spin it that way if you like, but reasonable people aren't going to buy into these kinds of conspiracy theories. A little common sense goes a long way.

There's pack and there's confirmed pack-breeding pair.  A pack is just two or more wolves together.  So local anecdotal evidence isn't really a conspiracy theory.

[bobcat]

This is a confirmed pack. Which means a breeding pair.

[X-Force]

If you don't think "finally admitting" isn't a correct analysis, then you have issues......oh, wait...............

No I sure don't think it's correct. They can't just take a few wolf sightings reported by the general public and call it a pack. Try to spin it that way if you like, but reasonable people aren't going to buy into these kinds of conspiracy theories. A little common sense goes a long way.

 

With everyone being to quick to jump on H-W and dis WDFW maybe get out their where these other "packs" are and setup trail cameras, do some hiking get photographs of animals and send them in. WDFW doesnt have a wolf task force out there to find every single animal and ever pack. If concerned hunters did the leg work and provided them documentation and not hearsay we could get things moving. I believe that every wolfpack on the eastern slope has been documented (trail cameras/photos) by private individuals before WDFW has confirmed the pack.

[X-Force]

This is a confirmed pack. Which means a breeding pair.

That is incorrect.
2014 there were 14 or something packs and only 5 breeding pairs

[boneaddict]

  for me to engage in this conversation I think.