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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #60 on: December 25, 2015, 02:07:18 PM »
I shot a large mule deer with a .243 @ 503 yards in montana this year.  Was that unethical of me?  It was a bolt action though, so I'm thinking that it was ok.....
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #61 on: December 25, 2015, 02:27:47 PM »
I shot a large mule deer with a .243 @ 503 yards in montana this year.  Was that unethical of me?  It was a bolt action though, so I'm thinking that it was ok.....

Noooo! Say it isn't  so! ;)

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #62 on: December 25, 2015, 02:33:42 PM »
Didn't bother reading any of this but would like to ad , I am a BIG proponent of the "potshot". :twocents: started carry 2 quivers this year and upgraded my pack system for 3200 cu in to 5000 cu in to fit more .243 rounds... It's all about quantity.
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #63 on: December 25, 2015, 02:35:43 PM »
Dang!  I was afraid of that!!! :bash:  It was a total pot shot too!  I barely had time to figure out my dope and wildly dial for MOA before I aggressively squeezed the trigger!
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #64 on: December 25, 2015, 02:37:37 PM »
On top of all of that, it was a stock Remington 700!  Biggerhammer probably won't believe that part though :chuckle:
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #65 on: December 25, 2015, 02:39:10 PM »
Didn't bother reading any of this but would like to ad , I am a BIG proponent of the "potshot". :twocents: started carry 2 quivers this year and upgraded my pack system for 3200 cu in to 5000 cu in to fit more .243 rounds... It's all about quantity.
  accuracy by volume, it's a real thing :chuckle:
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #66 on: December 25, 2015, 03:13:01 PM »
Is a "Potshot" anything like a "Hail Marry"?

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« Reply #67 on: December 25, 2015, 03:18:27 PM »
Didn't bother reading any of this but would like to ad , I am a BIG proponent of the "potshot". :twocents: started carry 2 quivers this year and upgraded my pack system for 3200 cu in to 5000 cu in to fit more .243 rounds... It's all about quantity.
  accuracy by volume, it's a real thing :chuckle:

I'm thinking cone of dispersion.

I just hope that I have to do a mag change someday.

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #68 on: December 25, 2015, 04:11:05 PM »
Ethics is up to the shooter.  Each to their own 

But for me, nothing is more unimpressive than killing big game from several hundred yards. 

Might show shooting skills.  Not so much on "hunting" skills.

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #69 on: December 25, 2015, 04:17:10 PM »
Dang!  I was afraid of that!!! :bash:  It was a total pot shot too!  I barely had time to figure out my dope and wildly dial for MOA before I aggressively squeezed the trigger!


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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #70 on: December 25, 2015, 04:18:28 PM »
Ethics is up to the shooter.  Each to their own 

But for me, nothing is more unimpressive than killing big game from several hundred yards. 

Might show shooting skills.  Not so much on "hunting" skills.

What if you hunted for 6 miles to get within 500 yds? Still unimpressed?
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #71 on: December 25, 2015, 04:23:11 PM »
Ethics is up to the shooter.  Each to their own 

But for me, nothing is more unimpressive than killing big game from several hundred yards. 

Might show shooting skills.  Not so much on "hunting" skills.

What if you hunted for 6 miles to get within 500 yds? Still unimpressed?

Yes.  6 miles or 60 yards hike.  All the same in my book.  Good shooting and good rifle.  Not impressive hunting.  But that's just me. 

Get your popcorn out. 

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #72 on: December 25, 2015, 04:23:36 PM »
Didn't bother reading any of this but would like to ad , I am a BIG proponent of the "potshot". :twocents: started carry 2 quivers this year and upgraded my pack system for 3200 cu in to 5000 cu in to fit more .243 rounds... It's all about quantity.

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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #73 on: December 25, 2015, 04:24:55 PM »
Boy good thing I'm not trying to impress anyone :tup:  finding and killing a mature buck is the challenge, regardless of weapon season.  If that had been a bow season I would have still killed him.  I just happened to have a rifle in hand, and have dedicated my time to become proficient with my equipment. 
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Re: Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No
« Reply #74 on: December 25, 2015, 04:34:28 PM »
So note to self, a guy who hikes 6 miles into a wilderness, lives off of what he can carry on his back, has the knowledge and skills to find a mature buck who has survived multiple hunting seasons, then kills that buck breaks him down, then packs him out that 6 miles is not a hunter because he shot the buck from several hundred yards.   Man all this time I thought I was hunting. :bash:
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