Ethical to shoot past 400 yards at elk w/AR15 based rifle? Yes/No

[Buzz2401]

TTT

[coachcw]

24/378 at least make it legal .

[mountainman]

I'm gonna make a super ultra magnum, 300 ultra necked down to .204. Should be good for making noise at least

Better to go 378 necked down to 22 Eargesplitten loudenboomer is the cartridge name

[2labs]

24/378 at least make it legal .

  any thing over 5000 F.P.S is a waste of sound barrier. Keep breaking it, won't be any left

[kentrek]

24/378 at least make it legal .

I've had a buddy miss alot with Weatherby....so it's safe to assume it's an inherently inaccurate case design...let's go with a 338 lupua case  to keep things ethical

[Biggerhammer]

24/378 at least make it legal .

I've had a buddy miss alot with Weatherby....so it's safe to assume it's an inherently inaccurate case design...let's go with a 338 lupua case  to keep things ethical

The .338 Ultra magnum case would be a better choice, out runs the .338 Lapua in every way except the 300gr bullets, then it's so close it doesn't matter. The Ultra will fit on a standard magnum bolt face where as the Lapua requires a slightly larger bolt face.

Yorke and I both have rifles chambered in my 6.5 Badger. The .338 Ultra necked down to 6.5 with a 40 degree shoulder and minimum body taper. Yes, it's fast. Faster than the 26 Nosler.

Left to right. .338 RUM case, my 6.5 Badger with a 160gr Matrix VLD, Yorke's creations .375 BME with a 350gr Sierra MK, Norma 6.5-.284 case.

Some heavy hitters!



Then my evil, brain bruising on the bench 450 Ultra magnum.

(Left) .450 Ultra Magnum with a 370gr CEB Non Con with polymer tip.
(Right) .500 Jeffery

[yorketransport]

When are you going to hurry up and chamber a rifle for the BME so you can stop slumming it with that little Grendel. Then you'll have a REAL elk caliber. 

On a side note, I think we need to neck that 500 Jeffery case down to 6.5 or 7mm. It seems like such a waste to have all that case capacity behind such a fat bullet that's going to end up getting down loaded anyways.

[carpsniperg2]

24/378 at least make it legal .

Fine twist my arm into it Poor barrel 

[yorketransport]

24/378 at least make it legal .

Fine twist my arm into it Poor barrel 

It's 6mm BMG or nothing for me! It's just unethical to use anything less.

[kentrek]

As long as you guys get something over 100 grains going over 4k and shoot an animal under 50 yards with it il be happy...everything else is..well...you know....unethical

[Dan-o]

24/378 at least make it legal .

I've had a buddy miss alot with Weatherby....so it's safe to assume it's an inherently inaccurate case design...let's go with a 338 lupua case  to keep things ethical

The .338 Ultra magnum case would be a better choice, out runs the .338 Lapua in every way except the 300gr bullets, then it's so close it doesn't matter. The Ultra will fit on a standard magnum bolt face where as the Lapua requires a slightly larger bolt face.

Yorke and I both have rifles chambered in my 6.5 Badger. The .338 Ultra necked down to 6.5 with a 40 degree shoulder and minimum body taper. Yes, it's fast. Faster than the 26 Nosler.

Left to right. .338 RUM case, my 6.5 Badger with a 160gr Matrix VLD, Yorke's creations .375 BME with a 350gr Sierra MK, Norma 6.5-.284 case.

Some heavy hitters!



Then my evil, brain bruising on the bench 450 Ultra magnum.

(Left) .450 Ultra Magnum with a 370gr CEB Non Con with polymer tip.
(Right) .500 Jeffery

 

What muzzle velocity do you get with that 6.5 Badger?
That just looks wicked.

 

[coachcw]

What's the barrel  life on that badger 100 rounds ? Lol

[Dan-o]

It just looks like the perfect 2,000 yard antelope round......

[yorketransport]

 

What muzzle velocity do you get with that 6.5 Badger?
That just looks wicked.

 

I get 3430 fps in the summer with the 160 Matrix. In the winter the velocity drops to about 3350 because US 869 is so temperature sensitive. No other powder will really work in this case with the heavy bullets though so I just deal with it.

What's the barrel  life on that badger 100 rounds ? Lol

I'll be happy if I can hit 700 rounds. I'm at about 120 right now and it's not key holing bullets yet!

[Dan-o]

You guys have far too much fun with this stuff......