American vs axis?

[jdb]

My son is young and just starting a family so is on a budget but wants to build a 6.5 creedmore. Which rifle would you guys recommend more the savage axis or the ruger American?

[huntnphool]

Ruger, but why rebuild the American, why not just buy the Ruger Preditor in 6.5 Creed already done?

[jdb]

Lol as I was typing I was thinking "I bet phool says ruger"

[Jonathan_S]

Can't say anything bad about either one as a budget rifle.

[huntnphool]

Lol as I was typing I was thinking "I bet phooey says ruger"

  I hear the Axis is a good gun too, I've just never owned one so can't recommend it.

[huntnphool]

Ruger, but why rebuild the American, why not just buy the Ruger Preditor in 6.5 Creed already done?

Ah, "American Preditor", I see they make it in 6.5.

[PlateauNDN]

Not sure about American and I was skeptical on the Axis with some reviews I read so I didn't purchase it initially. I went with a .111 in 7mm. I received an Axis in .270 for Christmas and its nice. The only complaint I have with it is the heavy trigger in the 1st generation Axis models (1 i received) versus the next generation that just came out that has the accutrigger stock. With a decent scope, factory trigger and factory ammo (not handloads) I've gotten mine to shoot within 3/4" groups at 100yds. I'd imagine with the trigger upgrade and handloads I could tighten that up even more.

[bobcat]

You say he's going to "build a 6.5 Creedmoor"?  So what exactly does that mean? Aftermarket stock, trigger, bedding job, etc?

A good option would be a Howa barreled action. Then he could purchase the stock he wants. And the Howa trigger should be good enough until he can afford to buy a better one.

http://legacysports.com/barreled-actions

[lamrith]

Not sure about American and I was skeptical on the Axis with some reviews I read so I didn't purchase it initially. I went with a .111 in 7mm. I received an Axis in .270 for Christmas and its nice. The only complaint I have with it is the heavy trigger in the 1st generation Axis models (1 i received) versus the next generation that just came out that has the accutrigger stock. With a decent scope, factory trigger and factory ammo (not handloads) I've gotten mine to shoot within 3/4" groups at 100yds. I'd imagine with the trigger upgrade and handloads I could tighten that up even more.

A simple DIY spring swap on that Axis (v1) will make it night and day.  Search on youtube and you will see it, uses a spring from a ballpoint pen.  I have done it 2x and each time the trigger went from a hard gritty 6.5-7# to around 3.5# trigger and they shoot lights out consistent.  Bang for the buck I put $ on the Axis, they are just very hard to beat if you need a gun you can pull out of box for <$400 (with glass) and shoot MOA or better with off the shelf ammo. 

The Axis can make an ok base for a budget build ( awesome for those <$700 - 700yrd sort of thing.  But the Boyds stocks have jumped in price $144 now for base stock+shipping and options?) and they do not come in Creedmore that I have seen yet so you are looking at a barrel swap which just jumped the $ again.  Finding something factory made in caliber might be a better choice.  There are a few Savage models in 6.5 creedmore want to say the model 11 or 111 that might be an option?

[jdb]

You say he's going to "build a 6.5 Creedmoor"?  So what exactly does that mean? Aftermarket stock, trigger, bedding job, etc?

A good option would be a Howa barreled action. Then he could purchase the stock he wants. And the Howa trigger should be good enough until he can afford to buy a better one.

http://legacysports.com/barreled-actions

build was probably not the right term. He initially wanted to build an ar10 and I told him it would be much cheaper to buy an American, so he started researching and found that the axis might be a viable alternative. The howa's are a good deal. I had one in .223 that shot very well

[yakimarcher]

spent 100 bucks more and buy a savage 111, much better rifle imo

[huntnphool]

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/1000-yards-500-rifle-rugers-american-predator/

[nutntoit]

I have an axis II in .223 and it is a great shooter. I would recommend those guns to anyone. With the savages, barrel swaps and aftermarket upgrades are very easy if he ever decides to build it up. Also savage is having a rebate deal on all of their rifles right now.

[RudyP]

I own the American in .308 and it's a great budget gun. Light weight and spot on.


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