Sierra Match Kings (SMK's) for Deer Hunting

[theleo]

In my experience awesome dramatic bangflops are worse on meat than a double lung runner usually.

In my experience double lung runners can make for more difficult pack outs than dramatic bangflops.

Why is every body using this emoji  ? I just don't get it.

[BULLBLASTER]

In my experience awesome dramatic bangflops are worse on meat than a double lung runner usually.

In my experience double lung runners can make for more difficult pack outs than dramatic bangflops.

Why is every body using this emoji  ? I just don't get it.

I usually always prefer dramatic bangflops when given the chance.

[Karl Blanchard]

In my experience awesome dramatic bangflops are worse on meat than a double lung runner usually.

In my experience double lung runners can make for more difficult pack outs than dramatic bangflops.

Why is every body using this emoji  ? I just don't get it.

  I see what you did there with the 

 

[theleo]

I usually always prefer dramatic bangflops when given the chance.

So you prefer wasting meat? I thought meat waste was a bad thing. 

[Karl Blanchard]

I usually always prefer dramatic bangflops when given the chance.

So you prefer wasting meat? I thought meat waste was a bad thing. 

I am so confused now guys you gotta remember I'm not an engineer

[jackelope]

Personally, I'd be more concerned with meat loss, i.e. blood-shot meat than anything else using these splatter type bullets. I'm sure they kill stuff extremely dead. Dare I mention a Nosler Ballistic Tip?  Would this type of bullet fit the same sort of conversation?  I've seen those bullets make deer extremely dead, but when they grenade inside the animal, they do ruin a bunch of meat.
I guess I prefer the weight retention type bullets personally. Those with a white tip...

guy at the gun counter at Cabelas yesterday was telling me how crap accubonds were.  Core always seperating from jacket and such

He obviously knows what he's talking about since he works at the Cabelas gun counter...

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  I've come to the conclusion that it's more of a gun counter thing in general more than an exclusive cabelas thing

BWwwaahahahaha.....!!!!!

[theleo]

I'd suggest you guys read the article, but it puts some on this forum in a bad light. Here's some good tidbits though.

Now the Match-King is a fine and superbly accurate bullet, but in the field, accuracy does not trump the predictable terminal performance designed into true hunting bullets.

Read more: http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammo/ammunition_st_matchbullets_200909/#ixzz43IJ7qp00

Not surprisingly, the MatchKing is also the match bullet most often touted as suitable for hunting by the accuracy-is-everything crowd, despite the fact that even Sierra says the MatchKing is not suitable for hunting. I guess those self-appointed, Internet-chat-room geniuses don’t think the folks at Sierra know anything about their own bullets.

Read more: http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammo/ammunition_st_matchbullets_200909/#ixzz43IJVymyP

Of the 15 deer and 11 hogs that ran more than 30 yards, all but one were shot well. That pig was lost. I cannot fault the Match-King because the shot placement was very poor, but a more solidly constructed bullet would almost certainly have given more penetration and a blood trail, which would have upped our odds of finding that hog.



 

Of the other 25 animals, only one was lost that appeared to be shot well. My client shot that buck on the point of the shoulder with his .308 from about 115 yards. I heard the bullet strike and saw the impact about halfway up, just behind the near shoulder. That buck should have been dead within 50 yards, but there was no blood trail, and we never saw the deer again. Back at camp, the video backed up my first impression–the shot was a good one. Still, we never recovered the deer. Based on the shot placement and past experiences with the MatchKing on such shots, I can surmise that the bullet passed right through without opening up because it didn’t strike bone or solid muscle.



 

We recovered the other animals that ran over 30 yards, but internal damage and penetration were inconsistent. Penetration varied a great deal, with six bullets exiting and three failing to make it past the first lung. Expansion and the resulting wound channels were also inconsistent. Some of the wound channels were bloodied, jellied wrecks, while others were no more than .30-caliber pencil holes. The disconcerting part was there was no rhyme or reason; they would exit on shoulder shots one time and not make it past one lung on another, even when no bones were struck. Yes, the animals all died, but those results are indicative of what happens when you choose a bullet designed to shoot tiny groups over a hunting bullet designed to deliver consistent penetration and expansion on game.


Read more: http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammo/ammunition_st_matchbullets_200909/#ixzz43IJtLidH

[BULLBLASTER]

And Berger would still not reccomend their bullets for hunting if the hunters didn't use them and show results. Now they have a hunting line that are exactly the same bullets that previously Berger did not reccomend for hunting.

It comes down to real experience again. Keep reading the articles and I'll keep killing animals and sending rounds down range to form my own opinions.

This horse has been thoroughly beaten and I am going to bow out of this thread in the hopes it goes away.

[Jonathan_S]

This thread is like a cottonwood tree...shouldn't have been left to grow

[Karl Blanchard]

It's really pretty simple. Know your gun. Know the capabilities you have behind the gun and the load you're shooting. And then just go kill stuff. The simple fact is that thousands of head of animals have been taken with the smk. People have been hunting with them for years. People are still hunting with them. And people will continue to hunt with them because bullets kill animals. These are not disputable statements.  These are actual things that are happening in the real world.

[Karl Blanchard]

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with SMK's or the new TMK's for Deer size game?  I don't really care what your feeling is if you should/shouldn't just wanted to know if anyone on here has any real life experience with them and how they did.

I refer back to the OP's ORIGINAL QUESTION.............................

[jkthomps]

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with SMK's or the new TMK's for Deer size game?  I don't really care what your feeling is if you should/shouldn't just wanted to know if anyone on here has any real life experience with them and how they did.

I do. They did great.

The end.

[Utah]

This thread is like a cottonwood tree...shouldn't have been left to grow

5 pages of interested guy's can't be wrong.   But I'm anti ban so I'll respectfully disagree!    I can't believe all these guys can get the Sierra to shoot!  Amazing!!   

[Karl Blanchard]

This thread is like a cottonwood tree...shouldn't have been left to grow

5 pages of interested guy's can't be wrong.   But I'm anti ban so I'll respectfully disagree!    I can't believe all these guys can get the Sierra to shoot!  Amazing!!   

I don't even shoot them, I just don't like it when people tell other people that they can't and shouldn't do something, when it is obviously something that is done regularly.   

[Utah]

No kidding.  Right.