230" Wyoming Mule Deer Poached

[JDHasty]

A friend from Montana emailed me and says the guy works at a high school as sports director.  I don't see how the District keeps him in that position if that is the case.

I'm sure they have rules on breaking the law and to which extent it's an issue of employment. Some schools also have ethics laws.

From the comments in this article:

"Are you freaking nuts Nate Strong poached that deer with the wrong tag and out of season. He should be hung. And fired from his Sublette county district #9 freaking job. I hope they nail him for a Lacey Act Violation."
http://sweetwaternow.com/105688-2/

Looks like the "natives are restless" - first they are calling to have him hung, and then after he is hung - fire him from his School District job.  So where is that going to leave the property owner who is threatening a civil law suit on top of all of everything else he is facing. 

Did you tell G&F that you found the body and where? I can only presume Hoback Ranches since that’s where he’s been living. I saw him on November 4th and 6th in there. Please private message us. We would like to proceed with a civil suit if we can prove he took it on private lands.

[DOUBLELUNG]

I posted the gohunt article on a Facebook forum where both the poacher and I are members.  Guys like this make it hard to enjoy the social media camaraderie of sportsmen. 

[Gringo31]

I think that the weight by fellow sportsman being labeled a "poacher" needs to be as heavy as possible.  Make people really think of the consequences.

[Dhoey07]

Sadly, it's not shocking to me that people will cheat to kill a big animal anymore.
What's worse, is I tend to look at my hunting bretheran with more suspicion now when a monster is killed because of it.

Out of season, closed units, game farm animals, etc. 

I'm not convinced social media has advanced our species.  It shows just how low that limbo bar can go.

Anymore?  This isn't anything new. 

[Alaskan]

http://www.gohunt.com/read/news/breaking-story-230-inch-mule-deer-buck-poached-in-wyoming

[JDHasty]

http://www.gohunt.com/read/news/breaking-story-230-inch-mule-deer-buck-poached-in-wyoming

From the comments:

Ken Z. - posted 1 hour ago on 03-31-2016 10:10:15 am
St. Charles, IL
goHUNT INSIDER
No surprise at all coming from Utah Expo, the capital of commercialized hunting. Why should citizens obey the rules and laws when their own wildlife board does not?! (See RFP) What do Utah & Wyoming expect when they are the #1 & #2 states in stealing public opportunity and putting those tags on the auction block??? They are reaping what they are sowing. Sorry, definitely not defending this citizen, just pointing out a fact. Another cancerous residual effect of SFW's model for wildlife conservation.

http://www.gohunt.com/read/news/breaking-story-230-inch-mule-deer-buck-poached-in-wyoming

From the comments:


Lyle P. - posted 51 minutes ago on 03-31-2016 11:02:58 am
Scottsdale, AZ, and Vancouver, WA
goHUNT INSIDER
I grandfather said you know if you have ethics by how you act when no one is looking. If the facts of this case are as seem to be then this is a common thief that deserves to spend time in jail. I think of the instances where someone gets a ticket for a game violation and is ignorance on the part of the violator rather than an attempt to gain an unfair advantage. Perhaps is using camo orange vest when statutes say has to be solid orange. I call those ticky-tacky. Still a violation but was not stealing from you or me. Then you have a case like what this appears to be where someone intentionally breaks the law to steal a mule deer from everyone else. That should merit jail time. To involve a trophy-class mule deer intentionally shot out of season without possessing a valid tag for that deer is blatant theft that deserves significant jail time, loss of hunting and fishing rights for life and shunning by those of us that try our best to not violate any statutes and to hunt ethically.

[pianoman9701]

Sadly, it's not shocking to me that people will cheat to kill a big animal anymore.
What's worse, is I tend to look at my hunting bretheran with more suspicion now when a monster is killed because of it.

Out of season, closed units, game farm animals, etc. 

I'm not convinced social media has advanced our species.  It shows just how low that limbo bar can go.

Anymore?  This isn't anything new.

  It's like saying "kids nowadays!" There have always been poachers and as long as there's game left, there always will. As we march into the future, hopefully we'll get better at catching them. And maybe even prosecuting them here in WA.

[Skillet]

Ok, a better way of phrasing it would have been - "I used to be surprised to hear about this type of behavior, but it comes up so frequently I'm not anymore - and that is sad."
Better?

[pianoman9701]

I just don't think it's any worse than it used to be. Maybe even better. When hunting licenses were 1st required a large percentage of people poached because they thought it was their right and that buying a license to hunt was BS. I do think it's decreased over time.

[JLS]

I don't believe the Lacey Act applies because he didn't sell the buck or its parts.

It doesn't have to be sold to constitute a Lacy Act violation, it only has to be transported across a state line.

[JLS]

A friend from Montana emailed me and says the guy works at a high school as sports director.  I don't see how the District keeps him in that position if that is the case.

I'm sure they have rules on breaking the law and to which extent it's an issue of employment. Some schools also have ethics laws.

From the comments in this article:

"Are you freaking nuts Nate Strong poached that deer with the wrong tag and out of season. He should be hung. And fired from his Sublette county district #9 freaking job. I hope they nail him for a Lacey Act Violation."
http://sweetwaternow.com/105688-2/

Looks like the "natives are restless" - first they are calling to have him hung, and then after he is hung - fire him from his School District job.  So where is that going to leave the property owner who is threatening a civil law suit on top of all of everything else he is facing. 

Did you tell G&F that you found the body and where? I can only presume Hoback Ranches since that’s where he’s been living. I saw him on November 4th and 6th in there. Please private message us. We would like to proceed with a civil suit if we can prove he took it on private lands.

It's going to be pretty hard for them to sue him civilly for taking an animal that belonged to the state of Wyoming.  Unless their laws are markedly different, a private landowner can't seek civil restitution for the loss of an animal that belonged to the people of the state.

[saylean]

Loss of vehicle, gun or bow, lifetime ban of hunting Wyoming and 6 months should get this blatant poacher something to think about. Too bad he wont get it. I hate poachers.

[JDHasty]

A friend from Montana emailed me and says the guy works at a high school as sports director.  I don't see how the District keeps him in that position if that is the case.

I'm sure they have rules on breaking the law and to which extent it's an issue of employment. Some schools also have ethics laws.

From the comments in this article:

"Are you freaking nuts Nate Strong poached that deer with the wrong tag and out of season. He should be hung. And fired from his Sublette county district #9 freaking job. I hope they nail him for a Lacey Act Violation."
http://sweetwaternow.com/105688-2/

Looks like the "natives are restless" - first they are calling to have him hung, and then after he is hung - fire him from his School District job.  So where is that going to leave the property owner who is threatening a civil law suit on top of all of everything else he is facing. 

Did you tell G&F that you found the body and where? I can only presume Hoback Ranches since that’s where he’s been living. I saw him on November 4th and 6th in there. Please private message us. We would like to proceed with a civil suit if we can prove he took it on private lands.

It's going to be pretty hard for them to sue him civilly for taking an animal that belonged to the state of Wyoming.  Unless their laws are markedly different, a private landowner can't seek civil restitution for the loss of an animal that belonged to the people of the state.

Trespass in which an animal was taken and the loss of that animal affects their ability to attract paying customers may well be. 

[JLS]

A friend from Montana emailed me and says the guy works at a high school as sports director.  I don't see how the District keeps him in that position if that is the case.

I'm sure they have rules on breaking the law and to which extent it's an issue of employment. Some schools also have ethics laws.

From the comments in this article:

"Are you freaking nuts Nate Strong poached that deer with the wrong tag and out of season. He should be hung. And fired from his Sublette county district #9 freaking job. I hope they nail him for a Lacey Act Violation."
http://sweetwaternow.com/105688-2/

Looks like the "natives are restless" - first they are calling to have him hung, and then after he is hung - fire him from his School District job.  So where is that going to leave the property owner who is threatening a civil law suit on top of all of everything else he is facing. 

Did you tell G&F that you found the body and where? I can only presume Hoback Ranches since that’s where he’s been living. I saw him on November 4th and 6th in there. Please private message us. We would like to proceed with a civil suit if we can prove he took it on private lands.

It's going to be pretty hard for them to sue him civilly for taking an animal that belonged to the state of Wyoming.  Unless their laws are markedly different, a private landowner can't seek civil restitution for the loss of an animal that belonged to the people of the state.

Trespass in which an animal was taken and the loss of that animal affects their ability to attract paying customers may well be.

They can have him cited for trespass certainly.  However, the animal does not belong specifically to them.  If I shot their prize Angus bull then they could sue me civilly.  They don't own the deer.  In order to show a monetary loss they would have to show that this impacted them financially.  It's not a game farm.

[JDHasty]

A friend from Montana emailed me and says the guy works at a high school as sports director.  I don't see how the District keeps him in that position if that is the case.

I'm sure they have rules on breaking the law and to which extent it's an issue of employment. Some schools also have ethics laws.

From the comments in this article:

"Are you freaking nuts Nate Strong poached that deer with the wrong tag and out of season. He should be hung. And fired from his Sublette county district #9 freaking job. I hope they nail him for a Lacey Act Violation."
http://sweetwaternow.com/105688-2/

Looks like the "natives are restless" - first they are calling to have him hung, and then after he is hung - fire him from his School District job.  So where is that going to leave the property owner who is threatening a civil law suit on top of all of everything else he is facing. 

Did you tell G&F that you found the body and where? I can only presume Hoback Ranches since that’s where he’s been living. I saw him on November 4th and 6th in there. Please private message us. We would like to proceed with a civil suit if we can prove he took it on private lands.

It's going to be pretty hard for them to sue him civilly for taking an animal that belonged to the state of Wyoming.  Unless their laws are markedly different, a private landowner can't seek civil restitution for the loss of an animal that belonged to the people of the state.

Trespass in which an animal was taken and the loss of that animal affects their ability to attract paying customers may well be.

They can have him cited for trespass certainly.  However, the animal does not belong specifically to them.  If I shot their prize Angus bull then they could sue me civilly.  They don't own the deer.  In order to show a monetary loss they would have to show that this impacted them financially.  It's not a game farm.

I agree w/you.  What I posted was a quote and I posted the link so the property owner may believe they have a civil case.