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Oh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions. I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two. It's about controlling humans, not elk. You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously. Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.
Quote from: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 09:49:02 PMQuote from: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 09:43:45 PMOh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions. I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two. It's about controlling humans, not elk. You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously. Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your onit's very discouraging to see so many grown men submit and grovel at the hand of a bunch of CROOKS. And to buy into their BS propaganda . "It's for the safety of the...... _______ ". Fill in the blank
Quote from: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 09:43:45 PMOh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions. I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two. It's about controlling humans, not elk. You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously. Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your on
Quote from: MtnMuley on April 01, 2016, 02:53:50 PMExactly MADMAX.What's your beef with Eyes in the Woods, Duck89? DFW putting on volunteer classes so those in the woods can notice wrong doings and and better educated on how to report them. One of the brightest ideas they've had in quite a while if you ask me. They admit they lack in enforcement and are happily asking for fellow hunters and outdoors people to help them out. Also, if you think you can receive bonus points for turning illegal fence jumpers in, then I've probably wasted my time typing this.There's to many do gooders out trying to tell everyone else what they are doing wrong. Our opinions differ in lack of enforcement. I see game wardens up in the area I like to mountain bike ride/shed hunt about every other time I'm up there. Stop you for no reason whatsoever and puff their chests out. Only to be disappointed that I have a CWP, seatbelt on, headlights on, and rifle unloaded. So of course they feel they have to remind me 10x not to let my extremely well behaved lab run elk because they can't find anything else. Ok ok ok I say have a nice day thanks for ruining my relaxing afternoon. In Idaho where I've hunted all around the Church, 10a and 10, I've never even seen a game warden or been stopped. Last time I was stopped in WA, I was literally driving along some remote logging road listening to music and the game warden was parked in the middle of the road sitting there doing nothing.
Exactly MADMAX.What's your beef with Eyes in the Woods, Duck89? DFW putting on volunteer classes so those in the woods can notice wrong doings and and better educated on how to report them. One of the brightest ideas they've had in quite a while if you ask me. They admit they lack in enforcement and are happily asking for fellow hunters and outdoors people to help them out. Also, if you think you can receive bonus points for turning illegal fence jumpers in, then I've probably wasted my time typing this.
Quote from: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 10:02:47 PMQuote from: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 09:49:02 PMQuote from: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 09:43:45 PMOh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions. I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two. It's about controlling humans, not elk. You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously. Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your onit's very discouraging to see so many grown men submit and grovel at the hand of a bunch of CROOKS. And to buy into their BS propaganda . "It's for the safety of the...... _______ ". Fill in the blankRut Hunting season WinterAt that point they're lucky to have survived. Throw in a feed lot, a massive concentration of elk with $16-18 a pound brown gold stuck to their heads that's about to fall on the ground. Throw in a bunch of greedy pukes on snow machines and quads running them all over the countryside hoping to knock the horns off their heads. If you think it doesn't happen you're blind. Throw in some native hunters hunting them almost year round. They need a break at some point. If you think it's about government control, you're blind and/or you have no care for the animals and no care for the future of hunting. Don't blame it on government control. Blame it on the greed of the people who won't leave the animals alone to recover from winter and rut and hunting seasons and snow machines and native hunters.
Wow, this dam guy is smart, smartest "dam" guy on this website I'll bet. Do you really think in all your superior knowledge that just letting everyone run over the hill's in area's like Oak Creek would result in a favorable outcome for all those wintering elk? REALLY!? It's strictly about controlling people? I'm quite certain that without these area's being around doing what they do you probably wouldn't even have the opportunity to see an elk first hand. They would have been gone long ago. Educate yourself...
Quote from: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 10:02:47 PMQuote from: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 09:49:02 PMQuote from: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 09:43:45 PMOh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions. I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two. It's about controlling humans, not elk. You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously. Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your onit's very discouraging to see so many grown men submit and grovel at the hand of a bunch of CROOKS. And to buy into their BS propaganda . "It's for the safety of the...... _______ ". Fill in the blankRut Hunting season WinterAt that point they're lucky to have survived. Throw in a feed lot, a massive concentration of elk with $16-18 a pound brown gold stuck to their heads that's about to fall on the ground. Throw in a bunch of greedy pukes on snow machines and quads running them all over the countryside hoping to knock the horns off their heads. If you think it doesn't happen you're blind. Throw in some native hunters hunting them almost year round. They need a break at some point. If you think it's about government control, you're blind and/or you have no care for the animals and no care for the future of hunting. Don't blame it on government control. Blame it on the greed of the people who won't leave the animals alone to recover from winter and rut and hunting seasons and snow machines and poachers and native hunters.
Quote from: jackelope on April 01, 2016, 10:19:57 PMQuote from: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 10:02:47 PMQuote from: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 09:49:02 PMQuote from: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 09:43:45 PMOh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions. I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two. It's about controlling humans, not elk. You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously. Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your onit's very discouraging to see so many grown men submit and grovel at the hand of a bunch of CROOKS. And to buy into their BS propaganda . "It's for the safety of the...... _______ ". Fill in the blankRut Hunting season WinterAt that point they're lucky to have survived. Throw in a feed lot, a massive concentration of elk with $16-18 a pound brown gold stuck to their heads that's about to fall on the ground. Throw in a bunch of greedy pukes on snow machines and quads running them all over the countryside hoping to knock the horns off their heads. If you think it doesn't happen you're blind. Throw in some native hunters hunting them almost year round. They need a break at some point. If you think it's about government control, you're blind and/or you have no care for the animals and no care for the future of hunting. Don't blame it on government control. Blame it on the greed of the people who won't leave the animals alone to recover from winter and rut and hunting seasons and snow machines and poachers and native hunters.Adjusted it for you as natives are not the only ones out killing. I agree, this would cause a lot of issues especially who decides criteria.
This is no different than some one going into a unit to hunt deer that doesn't open until a later date and killing one before everyone else that follows the law gets the chance.
