Sleep systems

[Nv02cummins]

What is everyone running for a sleep system this year? Tent, hammock, tipi, bivi? What about for bags or quilts? What sleeping pads?

Also include what time of year you mainly use it, and what changes you would make to it if it needs any changes.

Right now I am working on building a quilt and a tipi for this year and I'm in the market for a new sleeping pad

[7mag.]

I use a Cuben Fiber tarp from Zpacks, a down quilt from Enlightenedequipment, a Downmat UL7 from Exped, and an M90 bivy made by Borah. Sometimes a GoLite Shangra La 3 tipi. This is my normal, 3 season solo setup. With the tarp, the weight is about 5.5 pounds, including stakes and guy lines.

With a partner, we use a Seek Outside Cimmeron with a Kifaru 18" cylinder stove. The stove is weather dependant.

[BIGDOG253]

My EE quilt just arrived last week, im excited to try it out. I sleep on a Klymit Static V Sleeping Pad. My buddy and I going with the tipi/stove this year.

[Jonathan_S]

Homemade silnylon tipi, Big Agnes QCore and whatever appropriate bag depending on temp.  The QCore makes pretty much any bag warm enough.  Will be going EE quilt this year and adding a TiGoat WiFi stove.

[Nv02cummins]

Have you guys had any problems with your down quilts and water? I am building a down quilt and from the reading I have done a lot of people say not to use them up here but the few people that are from the area all said they are just fine. Figured I would give it a try and if it doesn't work out I have a synthetic bag that I can use.

7 mag- how do you like your cimmeron? I was going to base my build off of the Cimmeron but I changed my mind and decided to try to build a mini sawtooth.

[7mag.]

Have you guys had any problems with your down quilts and water? I am building a down quilt and from the reading I have done a lot of people say not to use them up here but the few people that are from the area all said they are just fine. Figured I would give it a try and if it doesn't work out I have a synthetic bag that I can use.

7 mag- how do you like your cimmeron? I was going to base my build off of the Cimmeron but I changed my mind and decided to try to build a mini sawtooth.

I've been using a down quilt for 2 years now with no issues.

The Cimmeron is awesome. More usable space than the Sawtooth, in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, the Sawtooth is a great shelter, but the Cimmeron fits my needs better.

[James]

My 3+ season system is as follows:
Thermarest neoair xtherm pad
20 deg down bag (zpacks)
Bora bug bivy if there are bugs
Equinox bivy during fall/winter
Bora tarp
Treking poles for tent poles
titanium stakes

If it was straight summer I would go with a lighter pad and bag, but this works pretty well for most of my trips including high buck.

[cvandervort]

Built a quilt
Built a stove
Cut up my mountain smith LT

Pray for me.

Haha

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[Nv02cummins]

Built a quilt
Built a stove
Cut up my mountain smith LT

Pray for me.

Haha

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What did you build your stove out of? what does it weigh in at? any pics?

[Karl Blanchard]

BA insulated qcore SL, and either my EE quilt or my slik bag, depending on the hunt.  Excited to try out my custom made Honey Badger DGS shelter! Should work well

[BULLBLASTER]

custom made Honey Badger DGS shelter! Should work well

[Shawn Ryan]

Go-Lite SL4 or Kifaru paratarp, Ti-Goat Omni Raven bivy, EE quilt, BA insulated aircore pad, Ex-ped pillow. Kifaru small box stove if using the SL4 and weather dictates, with Ti-Goat pipe.

Mostly early season archery. I added vent covers to the SL4.  If you add vents to your tipi consider a way to open and close them.

[Jonathan_S]

custom made Honey Badger DGS shelter! Should work well

 

[bowhunterty]

Picked up Seek Outside Redcliff with medium stove for this years hunt. Have used it twice so far on spring bear hunt. Really digging it. Finally can stand up to change. Stove keeps it toasty, down to 39deg the other night
Use a thermarest neo air sleeping pad. No complaints. Comfy and light, 12 oz.
Really thinking about getting a quilt for early season and using my Mountain Hardwear bag for later in the year.

[Miles]

All depends on the hunt.  I use a golite sl-5, Big Agnes scout, or a hammock. 

Depending on the weather I'll use a golite 20* bag or a BA lost ranger 15.  Both are used with a BA insulated pad.  I've been using the BA sleeping system more frequently because I can sleep anywhere and not worry about sliding off the pad.  It's nice having it secured in the bag. 

[Nmesub]

Clarks jungle hammock, unable to sleep comfortable in any other system since purchasing two years ago.

[Tbob]

I was debating between a sawtooth or a 3 season tent. Then I thought about the bugs and decided to get the B.A. Cooper spur ul 2. Love it so far. I use a thermo rest pro pad and a Mt Hardware 15 degree down bag. If it looks like it might be a wet trip I may throw in my ul bivy just to make sure my bag stays dry. It weighs almost nothing and I just pack it in the bottom of my bag. So far I'm pretty stoked on my camp/sleep system.

[ridgefire]

Kifaru paratarp with a omni raven bivy or a ba flycreek ul2 for my shelter. Marmot helium for a bag and a thermarest neoair for a pad. Mainly used for archery elk in Sept

[couesbitten]

Nemo Pentalite, Exped insulated pad, and I just got my new EE quilts last week (10* Revelation for me when alone, and a 20* Accomplice for when the girlfriend comes along).  I'll be trying the Accomplice out this weekend on a spring bear hunt in the Blues.

[kselkhunter]

Depends on the hunt.  If it's just me, I go with big agnes fly creek UL3.  If with my larger group of 3-5 people or a late season cold hunt, I pack up the Seek Outside 8 man tipi and stove.  Feathered Friends down sleeping bag w/liner.  Neo-air sleeping pad, and if it's a longer duration hunt (ie 4+ days) I pack in the thermarest ultra lite cot.  If it's hot weather scouting trip, I just pack the cot and it's bug liner, instead of a tent. 

[davk]

I use a MSR Hubba, Thermarest Prolite Plus, and then if its warmer a older Kelty Cosmo Down 20 or my North Face Hightail 3S if its colder.  Going to be going to a hammock system hopefully this year ... or next year.  Gotta still figure out what I want, and get the funds.  Trying to find flat spots in the mountains sucks.  I also dont sleep very well on the ground.  I dont know if a different pad would be better but I always get sore and roll around a lot.

[Stein]

I have a tent, a sleeping bag and a pad - apparently those are now called sleep systems.

I run a Marmot gore tex down bag I bought in college in 1996, whatever pad I can find and fit in my ruck and a go-lite 1 man tent most times unless I am with a buddy and then I run the REI Half-Dome long.

Water and down don't mix, synthetic doesn't last, pick your poison.

[ian_padron]

Seek Outside Cimarron, might add a stove if I end up hunting in November.

Mountain Hardware Ultra Lamina 30° bag with Sea to Summit Reactor to bring the rating down to roughly 10° if necessary. Thermorest Pro Lite pad, emergency blanket as a groundcloth.

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[kodiak 907]

ENO double nest hammock, ENO rainfly, ledge 20 degree bag, custom ccf pad. Set up anywhere there are trees or large rocks, sloped or wet ground. No sore spots and if there is a breeze you get rocked to sleep.

Everything plus the fly stakes, atlas straps, and the shock cord = 6lbs.

[JoeE]

Big Agnes 3 man UL tent, Thermarest X-Therm, and either my 10 degree EE quilt or my 0 degree Wiggys bag depending on situation.

[RB]

I was just wondering about this today now I know 

[D-Rock425]

I just ordered a sawtooth tent now I need to start shopping for a sleeping bag.

[SilkOnTheDrySide]

I just ordered a sawtooth tent now I need to start shopping for a sleeping bag.

Enlightened Equipment Enigma Quilt.


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[JoeE]

Big Agnes 3 man UL tent, Thermarest X-Therm, and either my 10 degree EE quilt or my 0 degree Wiggys bag depending on situation.

Update: Used the EE quilt for the first season. I took it to Alaska and had the worst 10 days of sleep I've ever had on a hunt. The quilt was promptly fired when I returned from Alaska and I've since replaced it with a down bag.

[CLARKTAR]

Big Agnes 3 man UL tent, Thermarest X-Therm, and either my 10 degree EE quilt or my 0 degree Wiggys bag depending on situation.

Update: Used the EE quilt for the first season. I took it to Alaska and had the worst 10 days of sleep I've ever had on a hunt. The quilt was promptly fired when I returned from Alaska and I've since replaced it with a down bag.

Which model and temp quilt?

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[hogslayer]

I have the sawtooth tent and love it.  I also have a EE quilt in 10 degrees.   I really like the quilt but some things to consider.  I coldest I have used it in was 20 degrees and it was plenty warm. But, you need to have some sort of hood or beanie to wear with it.  If you roll around enough in your sleep you will feel air get it.  Just make sure with the tent you try and get the edges down as close as you can where you sleep.   Cold wind drafts in the middle of the night will piss you off.  I either put snow around it or branches dirt ext. 

[Karl Blanchard]

Another  for the EE quilt.  I've had min for 2 seasons and have zero complaints.  My theory was go with a zero degree and even if it only got me down into the high teens or low 20's it would still be lighter and more compact than a mummy of similar rating.  Basically was spot on.  I've had it to single digits and was confortable.  Like was said before, cover your head, wear something to bed otherwise you will be sticking to your pad, and keep the straps tight around your pad if it's cold and they work aeesome.  I always have my FL long Johns on a backpack hunt so I wear them as PJ's. 

[SilkOnTheDrySide]

I ran the quilt for a trip this last year in fairly cold temperatures. I know FillTheFreezer has been down around 0 with his. I haven't had a quilt that low, but was very impressed into the 20s this year on a multi night trip which finally convinced me to go that route. Also saved almost a pound over my helium.

It's taken me a while to convert, but the benefits just simply outweigh any pitfalls for me.

But I'll also say they are an adjustment to get used too.


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[Karl Blanchard]

I ran the quilt for a trip this last year in fairly cold temperatures. I know FillTheFreezer has been down around 0 with his. I haven't had a quilt that low, but was very impressed into the 20s this year on a multi night trip which finally convinced me to go that route. Also saved almost a pound over my helium.

It's taken me a while to convert, but the benefits just simply outweigh any pitfalls for me.

But I'll also say they are an adjustment to get used too.


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[92xj]

I'm running a megatarp with extensions to raise it off the ground for air flow to avoid condensation. Running an EE 20 down quilt on an r4.4 wide pad. To avoid the drafts and condensation on the quilt I had bearpawwilderness build a custom size bivy out of Cuban bathtub with breathable upper with noseeum over my head for around 7 ounces. If it's super cold or I'm wet I'll run the megatarp to the ground with the annex and 18" cylinder stove.

[garrett89]

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

[Magnum_Willys]

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

Looks good !  12# shipping weight kinda scares me off for a packbag tho....

[garrett89]

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

Looks good !  12# shipping weight kinda scares me off for a packbag tho....

Try to find it at a military surplus and show them the cheapest online price you can. They'll price match usually. Buy new or lightly used, when they're used they are usually very beat up from constant re-issue.

[SilkOnTheDrySide]

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

This sleeping bag is not a viable option for backpack hunting at over 9 lbs...


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[garrett89]

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

This sleeping bag is not a viable option for backpack hunting at over 9 lbs...


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Don't have to use both bags to be warm. If weight is your concerned you can subtract 1 of them and still use the bivy on one and be okay.

[SilkOnTheDrySide]

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

This sleeping bag is not a viable option for backpack hunting at over 9 lbs...


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Don't have to use both bags to be warm. If weight is your concerned you can subtract 1 of them and still use the bivy on one and be okay.

To what temperature and what weight?

My guess it's still in the 4-5 lb range which just isn't viable for a backpacking application, which I'm assuming the OP is talking about. If not, buy away.

I'm not questioning the quality of warmth of the bag, as I've never used it.


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[kellama2001]

Tagging for later

[garrett89]

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

This sleeping bag is not a viable option for backpack hunting at over 9 lbs...


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Don't have to use both bags to be warm. If weight is your concerned you can subtract 1 of them and still use the bivy on one and be okay.

To what temperature and what weight?

My guess it's still in the 4-5 lb range which just isn't viable for a backpacking application, which I'm assuming the OP is talking about. If not, buy away.

I'm not questioning the quality of warmth of the bag, as I've never used it.


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If you just take the black bag plus the bivy should be good until 0 degrees easily and be maybe 3-4 lbs. The green bag is mainly for spring/summer. If super cold I would recommend having both the green/black sleeping bags plus the bivy sack which will be good until about -30-40.

[Jonathan_S]

Sounds great for close to the rig but I'd never pack that when I can get a 1.75# quilt that is warm to under 10 degrees for less than $200

[highside74]

I have a Mountain Smith LT in great shape and a tyvek homemade footprint if someone is looking for something like that. Used it for 4 nights.  $80tyd

[SilkOnTheDrySide]

Sounds great for close to the rig but I'd never pack that when I can get a 1.75# quilt that is warm to under 10 degrees for less than $200

Kind of my thought...

I mean my entire sleep system is right about 4 lbs...that includes pad and tarp.


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[Shawn Ryan]

I'm running a megatarp with extensions to raise it off the ground for air flow to avoid condensation. Running an EE 20 down quilt on an r4.4 wide pad. To avoid the drafts and condensation on the quilt I had bearpawwilderness build a custom size bivy out of Cuban bathtub with breathable upper with noseeum over my head for around 7 ounces. If it's super cold or I'm wet I'll run the megatarp to the ground with the annex and 18" cylinder stove.

That or a Ti-Goat Omni Raven bivy at 8 oz: http://www.titaniumgoat.com/Omni-Bivy.html.

[High Climber]

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Modular-Sleep-System-Goretex/dp/B002LLPILC

Plan to get another one since I got out of the military in 2015. Best sleeping bag I ever had. They're better than the new ones they issue out now. As long as you use it correctly you won't be cold.

This sleeping bag is not a viable option for backpack hunting at over 9 lbs...


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Don't have to use both bags to be warm. If weight is your concerned you can subtract 1 of them and still use the bivy on one and be okay.

To what temperature and what weight?

My guess it's still in the 4-5 lb range which just isn't viable for a backpacking application, which I'm assuming the OP is talking about. If not, buy away.

I'm not questioning the quality of warmth of the bag, as I've never used it.


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Used this system a bunch while active duty marine corps... Loved it.  Bought a new never used surplus 5 or 6 years ago... It's as good of quality as I remember BUT I'm obviously way more of a soft body now because I can't stand the weight but more so the bulk! Green bag will keep you alive at 30 degrees but not comfy.  Black bag is a must for anything other than summer and it's super bulky without the bivy sack. Anyone want to trade me for a lightweight 10 or 0 degree bag?   

[hirshey]

Base camp - 12 person Kifaru tipi with titanium stove
Nemo insulated lite pad travels back and forth with me to spike
REI 0 degree down bag

Spike camp - Seek Outside 8 man tipi with titanium stove
Same pad
Mountain Hardware ultra lamina 10 degree short bag
Outdoor Research alpine bivy for the ultra cold nights and an evolving project we call "ultra spike"

Ultra spike - for those times you just want to keep hiking 
My fella and pal both got Kuiu 0 degree bags for Christmas, and are making a custom, small 3 person plus stove tipi they plan on carrying while hunting. They also have OR bivvies. They're never coming back. :-p