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Raffle tag purchase thoughts

I don't participate because I don't want to spend the money
23 (14.5%)
I don't participate because others spend thousands of dollars on them. The odds are horrible.
42 (26.4%)
Cap the ticket sales and I will participate again
39 (24.5%)
I'm a whale. I spend thousands every year hoping to "buy" the raffle win.
4 (2.5%)
I buy some raffle tickets regardless of the odds. I don't care if I win or lose.
51 (32.1%)

Total Members Voted: 131

Voting closed: June 12, 2016, 05:15:18 PM

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Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« on: June 02, 2016, 05:10:55 PM »
Do you participate in WDFW special hunt raffles?
Do you not participate?
If the system was changed, would that change whether you participated or not? 

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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2016, 05:30:26 PM »
Some years I buy some some years I don't. I would probably buy more if you could do it online again.

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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2016, 06:28:09 PM »
I buy a few (like 10) each year, but only for one species. Would buy more if they capped the sales.

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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2016, 08:13:40 PM »
Thanks for the input and the votes. Just curious to see how this plays out.
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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2016, 08:18:32 PM »
the dinero.  If I could max the raffle out I would.

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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2016, 08:31:02 PM »
I would if I could buy online.

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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2016, 08:41:11 PM »
I buy just a few..love elk   :tup:
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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2016, 06:40:20 AM »
Three years ago I sent a letter to the WDFW expressing my concerns about the high dollar guys buying large lots of tickets and it went unanswered. I haven't bought a ticket since and until they set a reasonable limit to the number that can be purchased per category, I won't. Its all about the revenue so I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2016, 06:59:09 AM »
I will let those with much more disposable income than myself fund WDFW.

If I ever become independently wealthy to the point I can buy an amount of tickets that will skew the odds in my favor, I will consider it.

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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2016, 07:20:31 AM »
I buy into most raffles. It doesn't matter the odds or if the raffles are capped as I know first hand it only takes 1 ticket to win.

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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2016, 09:04:29 AM »
I never buy more than one ticket per category.  My odds are infinitely better with one than zero, and I can't increase them appreciably buying several vs. one.  Similar to the lottery, I will buy one ticket per lottery sometimes for fun, even though the odds are hundreds of millions to one, it's nice to dream about what to do if I suddenly became a multimillionaire (I'd probably buy a few raffles).
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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2016, 10:25:32 PM »
 I would buy more if there was a cap to the amount one person could buy. Like up to 10. Knowing our greedy state wouldn't do this I'd like to see another raffle ran this way that mirrored the original but with a cap of one ticket per customer. Win, win for the state. More money coming in and happier hunters. Surely every species could handle one more tag raffled off.
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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2016, 10:34:53 PM »
I'm just gonna buy one of each . What's another $144 to the state.


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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2016, 05:28:19 AM »
I buy more or less year after year.  Some years I buy one in each category and some years I buy many in one and not others.  I don't like the fact that someone who has unlimited funds can buy unlimited tickets because that is unfair to me.  But someone else probably doesn't like the fact that I could afford 100 or more of a ticket also.  Regardless of what I like or not, the more money we can raise in the raffle the better for all of us.  I see some places where they have a cap on tickets and they raise 1/2 to 1/10 of the money they could.  In the world today we are fighting an uphill battle vs the anti hunters and the more $ that we can have on our side the better. Most, not all, hunters don't want to donate or spend an extra dollar or minute.  I believe most hunters to be the greatest citizens in our country. I see our guys all the time who between them and their wives make at the higher range of middle class money that I try to get to sign up for NRA, RMEF, Mule Deer memberships or donate to a cause , etc. These people every year say maybe next year. So the average guy will not even pony up $25-45 to get the name on the roster for 1 hunting and conservation organization? There are roughly 100,000 elk tags sold in the state and roughly 17,000 RMEF members. So if the rich guy is not the one funding us; then how are we supposed to keep our hunting heritage if the average guy wont step up?
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Re: Poll...Raffle ticket sales
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2016, 06:09:41 AM »
Funny that no one complains about lotto being unfair under the same no limit ticket sales. Only when people want their better odds of getting tags do funny issues come up like this  :chuckle: :dunno: Everyone wanting the "fair" road should stick to special permits apps where everyone pays their 6 bucks and to get in the point pool and wait in line like everyone else.

No one is making anyone buy tickets, and its ironically the guys who buy the least tickets or none at all that have the most to say. Everyone who buys a ticket knows and or can see the odds of drawing when they purchase tickets. Dont like it, dont buy a ticket hahaha how hard can this be lol I think all of you guys complaining are forgetting the #1 goal of these raffles.... get ready... to make money for conservation of those species. Why would any agency put a cap on the amount of dollars it can raise? Kinda defeats the whole purpose of having a raffle and trying to make as much money possible for each species.

Do you same guys complain to the guy next to you dumping a couple grand on the RMEF banquet raffles? NO WAY so it baffles me this any different. Matter a fact most people go over to congradulate and thank those people for their large contributions to wildlife conservation. At the end of the day its a govt ran raffle and for that reason certain people will try to make this raffle equally fair for any guy who wants to enter bc they are more focused on their odds of winning the tag rather than raising money for wildlife.  At that point why not just make a 1 ticket sale limit and let WDFW increase their license and tag fees to get the rest of their funding they would loose from having this new capped raffle sale. Raffles make a huge chunk of cash for the WDFW and when that cash is gone they will figure out a way to get it back, and guess who will be on the receiving end of that? Then lets see how people feel about the raffles hahaha might not be so bad afterall

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