Views on minerals

[HunterofWA]

I was wondering what your guy's thoughts are on trophy rock, and Red edge goat mineral.
Basically what I'm wondering is, does the red edge goat mineral look good enough to give it a shot? I think it would be a lot better due to it's higher calcium content. Well tell me what you think! I'm ready to get some advice! thanks!
here's the link to Red Edge mineral: https://www.farmstore.com/product/red-edge-goat-mineral-mix-25-lb/

[Bean Counter]

For deer and elk, I'd say go to the feed store and just get plain old salt with selenium for $9 a 50lb bag.   

[Bango skank]

For deer and elk, I'd say go to the feed store and just get plain old salt with selenium for $9 a 50lb bag.   

   or buy the little 4lb trace mineralized salt blocks with selenium for $2-4 each if you want something more convenient to throw in a day pack.  If you go the 4lb brick route though, bring one or two every time you check your cam, until you have a nice pile built up.

[fish vacuum]

If you just want something to bring them in for your trail cam, I've found this to be the best.

[HunterofWA]

I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...

[jackelope]

I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...

I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

For deer and elk, I'd say go to the feed store and just get plain old salt with selenium for $9 a 50lb bag.   

 

[HunterofWA]

I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...

I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.

The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.

[jackelope]

Selenium salt

[HunterofWA]

https://www.farmstore.com/product/trace-mineral-loose-salt-with-selenium-90-50-lb/
So is this what you think is a better idea?

[HunterofWA]

Selenium salt

Nice!

[Rainier10]

I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...

I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.

The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.

If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16.  I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.

[HunterofWA]

I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...

I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.

The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.

If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16.  I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.

Are you using it on black-tails?

[Special T]

I've used the feed salt with Selium salt  and the apple buck jam. Both seem to work here on the west side. For the salt I clear an area bring a rake and rake about half the bag into the dirt. When I check my camera I keep the rest of the salt in a 2 liter pop bottle and portable and work into the ground as necessary.  The buck jam goes on a rotten stump. I think apple works best. Used the molassis one and only drew in the elk. A BIG rotten stump gets tore apart pretty quick with the jam. I do the jam when it's dry and the salt before a rain if I can. All on the west side

[HunterofWA]

Whats Selig umbrella?

[HunterofWA]

Has anyone used trophy rock?

[Rainier10]

I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...

I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.

The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.

If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16.  I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.

Are you using it on black-tails?

I am using the muledeer version in eastern Washington, the elk love it as well.  I get does, fawns, cows and calves in as well.

[jackelope]

I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...

I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.

The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.

If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16.  I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.

Are you using it on black-tails?

I will almost guarantee you that lots of other things will work better than salt and minerals in Western Washington. The soils are a lot more salt and mineral rich on this side than the dry side. The animals don't crave it much over here.  Over there, they'll dig craters in the ground to get the minerals that have leeched into the soil. I haven't seen my camera sites in a couple years now, but I'll bet there are holes in the ground where that salt was dumped.
I have a couple cameras in the Gifford Pinchot that have been out and unchecked since last August. It will be interesting to see what is on those cards. Nothing in front of the cameras but trace mineral salt w/ the selenium.

[fish vacuum]

I will almost guarantee you that lots of other things will work better than salt and minerals in Western Washington. The soils are a lot more salt and mineral rich on this side than the dry side. The animals don't crave it much over here.

This. Blacktails will hit the flavored liquid stuff much more than salt and mineral blocks. Yes, the blocks work. Just not as well.

[HunterofWA]

Does anyone know how much calcium American stockman trace mineral salt has in it?
https://www.farmstore.com/product/trace-mineral-loose-salt-with-selenium-90-50-lb/

[HunterofWA]

The reason I want to get more calcium and minerals out to the deer herd is because my average buck is the small one with an occasional big one like the one below.

[buglebrush]

Selenium salt

Those are some awesome bulls!

[HunterofWA]

So does anybody no how much calcium is in this: https://www.farmstore.com/product/trace-mineral-loose-salt-50-lb/

Do you think it's a good choice? what I think I'll do is scratch up the ground, pour out about 20lbs of salt, and then place a trophy rock right in the middle. How does that sound? The reason I want to know how much calcium there is in the American Stockman big 6 trace mineral salt, is because I want to provide the deer an extra punch of calcium for the bucks.
Thanks!
Jeremy

[Bango skank]

Seems like you have some unrealistic expectations as far as being able to get a bigger class of bucks by putting down the "right" mineral.  Youre really not going to see a noticable increase in antlers.  If you want bigger racked bucks, they need to get older.  Really just put down some trace mineralized selenium salt.  A little extra calcium isnt going to perform a magic trick on the antlers.

[HunterofWA]

Thanks for all your answers and suggestions guys! I think I've got the idea now so you don't have to respond to this forum anymore.

[WSU]

I got zero response to mineral salt on deer around Olympia. The local elk ignored it too. I literally had both on the trail cam walking over the pile and it remained untouched.

[Wacenturion]

I have put a couple Trophy Rocks out on my property in eastern Washington and the animals do use them.

[WSU]

I've put the same stuff out in eastern Washington and the deer went crazy.

[jackelope]

I was told that the soil is rich in minerals and salt on the westside due to it's proximity to salt water and that's why the animals don't flock to it like they do over east. I don't know if that's actually the reason, but they definitely don't hit the salt over here like they do over east. I've had thousands of pictures over a month period on a camera over there, and the same salt on the ground over here will yield 20 pictures. I think apples and such is where it's at for the westside.
 

[dadeo316]

Has anyone used trophy rock?

Yes! Used one in front of my trail cam until it got stolen along with my treestand.  The rock appealed to everything from deer to mama bear with cubs and even a coyote.  The salt seems to melt into the ground too.  Even when the rock was gone the deer would come in and scrape the ground. 

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[dadeo316]

Has anyone used trophy rock?

Yes! Used one in front of my trail cam until it got stolen along with my treestand.  The rock appealed to everything from deer to mama bear with cubs and even a coyote.  The salt seems to melt into the ground too.  Even when the rock was gone the deer would come in and scrape the ground. 

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Im on the wetside too.

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[HunterofWA]

Cool. Glad some one else is having success with trophy rock too!

[HunterofWA]

Seems like you have some unrealistic expectations as far as being able to get a bigger class of bucks by putting down the "right" mineral.  Youre really not going to see a noticable increase in antlers.  If you want bigger racked bucks, they need to get older.  Really just put down some trace mineralized selenium salt.  A little extra calcium isnt going to perform a magic trick on the antlers.

Sorry for keeping this thread going...  but does trace mineral salt contain any other  minerals? if so, what kind?

[HunterofWA]

So who else has had success with purina antler max water sheiled deer 16 pellets? Does anyone know if there apple flavored?

[HunterofWA]

I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...

I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.

The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.

If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16.  I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.

Are you using it on black-tails?

I will almost guarantee you that lots of other things will work better than salt and minerals in Western Washington. The soils are a lot more salt and mineral rich on this side than the dry side. The animals don't crave it much over here.  Over there, they'll dig craters in the ground to get the minerals that have leeched into the soil. I haven't seen my camera sites in a couple years now, but I'll bet there are holes in the ground where that salt was dumped.
I have a couple cameras in the Gifford Pinchot that have been out and unchecked since last August. It will be interesting to see what is on those cards. Nothing in front of the cameras but trace mineral salt w/ the selenium.

You should go check those cams' it would be interesting to see what showed up. I can't wait that long to check my camera

[JakeLand]

If you just want something to bring them in for your trail cam, I've found this to be the best.

 Works real good on blacktails! Just make sure you pour it under a big thick canopy that way it doesn't wash out quickly

[HunterofWA]

Thanks! i might give that a shot!

[JakeLand]

The buck jam Apple liquid ! They had a hole
Scraped out you could put a couple bales of hay in they were loving it

[Antlershed]

I've used the 50lb trace mineral block here on the Westside and had deer, elk, bears, and even a coyote stop and check it out all on the same set.

[HunterofWA]

I think I'll use a trophy rock and this trace mineral selinium salt https://www.farmstore.com/product/trace-mineral-loose-salt-with-selenium-90-50-lb/

[fish vacuum]

HunterofWA, I couldn't post pics in a PM, so here's some old pics of the hole the deer have made going after the buck jam. Just one quart a month during spring and summer.

[nwwanderer]

Some considerations:
Selenium is very low in the inland northwest, at the very least salt w/selenium (needed in very small quantities but essential)
Most years A,D,E are very low late summer through winter, not so much this year, fall rain
If you are feeding grain calcium is important, it is high in Phosphorous and you need more Ca than P
Nearly all branded supplements are very expensive for content
Most years, most situations, your efforts have little or no effect beyond your satisfaction of seeing the critters