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Offline Rainier10

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2016, 02:09:52 PM »
I think it greatly depends on how many members are allowed. How is the land going to be managed? Can you wander around all the land? Is it in grids you can hunt? Are you limited to a stand or blind? How do you determine who gets the "good" areas? Can everyone hunt at the same time? Do you get all seasons?
So what would you pay for unlimited access versus grid access?  High and low limit?  What would you pay for sign up to hunt a spot versus first come first serve?  What would you pay for all season access versus pay for a specific season?  Or just pick the ones that are important to you and say what you would pay for that type of access.  Keep in mind the more you limit it or fine tune what is allowed the more people you remove from the base of who it appeals to.
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Offline Rainier10

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2016, 02:11:29 PM »
"I think we can all assume there will be animals there to hunt"

Well, there might be and there might not be.  I have access to a lot of properties that I don't hunt because the density of game is pretty slim.... yet just down the road a piece there are places that I do hunt on.  Sometimes these areas can even be w/in walking distance of one another.
I for one would not pay to hunt an area that didn't have animals, that is why I was assuming they would be there.
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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2016, 02:30:39 PM »
$500 if it were a good situation. I'd only go for deer and elk.  Can hunt a lot of the state for free. Or buy timber access for a couple hundred. Or go to Idaho for $900 in tags plus the trip to an area I know will produce. If it were a state without public land it would be different.

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2016, 02:34:54 PM »
$500 if it were a good situation. I'd only go for deer and elk.  Can hunt a lot of the state for free. Or buy timber access for a couple hundred. Or go to Idaho for $900 in tags plus the trip to an area I know will produce. If it were a state without public land it would be different.
Fair enough.  I think for that price you would have to sign up a lot of people to then cover the costs of all the stuff he is talking about being available.  That many people would then make it not worth it for me.  I personally would pay more to have less people around.

Of course I am the guy that has a lot of money invested in private property for me and my family to hunt.
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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2016, 02:53:37 PM »
I'm 100% public land DIY since I have that option in WA, OR, ID, and CO. It can be frustrating at times, but the way I prefer it. Would rather spend money on fishing trips  :tup:

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2016, 03:08:22 PM »
to eliminate guessing on price, we need to find out how many members will be in group

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2016, 03:24:56 PM »
For me , in comparison, I pay $560 and change/year for our Thousand Trails Membership which essentially offers the same or more Camp/ Recreation amenities as the OP has described. Throw in acreage to hunt and a decent legal game population, I would pay somewhere in the 6-900$/yr range.
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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2016, 06:43:59 PM »
I come from Texas, I know that is not everyone's favorite state but up until 2015 I was part of a 3500 acre club that had 12 members. All the stands were maintained by the 12 of us. I have no idea who put them in originally but it was required of us to spend a few weekends a year helping maintain stands and food plots. I paid 1500 annually to be apart of that club. The land was oil field land and somehow it was leased to one individual who sub leased it to us for hunting rights. I would love to see something like that here in washington. Me and family had many awesome nights at the campground among other families and all sharing the same love of the property because in many ways we were invested not only financially but physically and emotionally to growing big game and being responsible hunters.

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2016, 09:36:25 PM »
I think there is a simple way to answer the OPs question, without getting into all kinds of scenarios and trying to figure out a business plan how it would work etc.  Here's a simple way to address the OPs question:

1.  Think in your own head what would be acceptable private club conditions for you. 
2.  Imagine someone is offering this, your own acceptable opportunity, to you.  You don't need to tell anyone what your own acceptable conditions are.  For now, keep them in your head.
3.  Determine, in your own head, how much you would pay for a membership to a club that meets your own personal conditions, whatever those conditions are.
4.  Reply on this thread with that dollar number. 

Really, it's that friggin simple fellas. 
For me, I'd pay $1500 to $2000 a year for MY OWN PERSONAL ACCEPTABLE CONDITIONS!!!  I am not going to share with you what my own personal conditions are because that doesn't matter in this thread.  I'm not going to try to figure out the pitfalls that someone would have to overcome to provide me with my own personal conditions, whether the land exists, whether it's legal, how this will be accomplished.  I'm just answering what the OP asked.  How much would you be willing to pay for an acceptable hunting/wilderness membership. 
I can't afford to pay 5000 or 10000, but I think 2000 for me is a reasonable, affordable cost. 

Really, it's that simple.  Just provide a number. 

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2016, 09:42:19 PM »
I'd pay $500. Anymore than that and I'd feel like I couldn't go hunt anywhere else. That's one of the things I enjoy about hunting, is going to new places, and other states. But a club that was close, where I could take my kids on the weekends, year around, would definitely be worthwhile for me, and I'd certainly be willing to pay something for that, but money's tight so $500 is about all I could do.

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2016, 04:54:37 AM »
-What aspects of a full service club appeal to you the most? Stands?  Blinds?  Food Plots?  Camp Amenities?   
-Would you prefer to bring your own camp or have the option to move into a very well established and provided tent camp or cabin? 
-Would you rather have a "safari" type experience where there are camp staff looking after you or a more rustic family campground vibe?   
Would Trophy Elk only be appealing?  What about bow hunter only, or Modern firearm only?

I don't need any amenities in camp sites. I'm all for stands, blind, food plots being established of course it will be great to keep cost down, have members involving/volunteering to do that kind of staff.

cabin maybe if i stay with my young children, but definitely for my self or when kids grew up I bring my own staff.

 NO ''Safari", it will raise membership coast, and it will take away that feeling of success and being proud of your self. I would rather spend money to obtain more land or improve habitat that have babysitters.

I'm not  trophy hunter. So access site for elk deer and waterfowl will work for me.

 
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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2016, 07:44:20 AM »
Tough in Washington.  WDFW has more boulders to throw in your road than you can count.

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2016, 08:10:21 AM »
I don't need a lot of amenities either. Trophies are nice but I typically shoot the first legal animal.  The Safari experience would just put it out of my price range. Deer and Elk access would be great.
I don't think I would spend more than $1000.
Cabins would be nice but not required.

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2016, 08:25:20 AM »
Thats a good point Bobcat.  Me personally i tend to focus my hunting time on a single place, others like to get out and see the countryside. 

A few more questions for the group.

-What aspects of a full service club appeal to you the most? Stands?  Blinds?  Food Plots?  Camp Amenities?   
-Would you prefer to bring your own camp or have the option to move into a very well established and provided tent camp or cabin? 
-Would you rather have a "safari" type experience where there are camp staff looking after you or a more rustic family campground vibe?   

Hunting obviously is the purpose of a club like this.  You all have expressed some preferences.  If you would please refine that a bit.  Would Trophy Elk only be appealing?  What about bow hunter only, or Modern firearm only? 
   

I have my own ladder stands and blinds.  Food plots would be a big plus.  Power & water hookups and a picnic table are sufficient for me and all I would care to pay for, I have 110 gal black & grey holding tanks and can empty them on the way home.  Actually I can carry sufficient potable water for a week or ten days and can live off my batteries and generator quite comfortably.

Perhaps a  picnic cover w/communal fireplace and maybe a charcoal grill would be good so long as there were strictly enforced rules preventing someone plugging in a television w/dish antenna or cable under it. 

I have my own RV (Toy Hauler)and prefer it to tents or cabins.  I not only would not want to pay for a "safari" experience, I don't want or need anyone looking after me or my family, period.   

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Re: Are You Looking for a Place to Hunt?
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2016, 08:30:50 AM »
More camp ground than safari camp?  Makes perfectly good sense to me.  Emphasis on tent sites or tents?  More RV/Camper sites than tent space?  Would you prefer to use your own stands or club set ones? Would you be willing to let someone use your stand if it was set and you weren't hunting that day?  What about logging activities?  Are you willing to coexist with active logging in some areas?

I think the biggest obstacle will be putting together a like minded group of conscience hunters, and still be something that appeals to families and individuals alike. 

Talk to me about land.  Now I know everyone here claims to hunt a million acres of no fence pristine wilderness, but lets face it I've lived here for more than a week.  There isn't much in the way of pristine anything in this state, especially on the west side.  You really have two options private farmland and timber land managed forests.  The latter is easy, the farmland might require more money and work than some people think.   

Keep the comments coming.  I've been reading your PMs even though I haven't replied.  I'll probably sit down this weekend and do some emailing.

I think my personal liability policy would exclude that as a consideration. 

 


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