Is 3 pt RULE HURTING MULE DEER POPULATIONS?

[skidynastar33]

I was thinking the same thing for waterfowl, too many times people just shoot ducks and don't know what species there shooting and  shoot to many pintails and just leave them lay, . So I think we should Change all waterfowl seasons to permit only and change the limit to 1 bird of any species. Because you just shoot the one bird and don't have to worry about what species your killing because... Let's face it, it's tough to figure out what species they are when there flying in. 

[mfswallace]

I think they just need to add a few permit only trophy units like they have done with the Desert Unit.  That might satisfy both sides of this conversation.

Desert won't be a trophy unit for much longer, the week before modern tag opened(2weeks ago) ex gamie of the area said natives took out 10 big bucks and an especially nice drop thine by B lake

[Bango skank]

Predators kill deer but so do people. The reality is predators are plentiful and that's not going to change. So if deer populations are decreasing at a rate that is too high all we can do is decrease the number that hunters take.

We can also have massive predator management reform.  Why are you so quick to accept us losing opportunity instead of us gaining opportunity via predator management?  Oh, thats going to be hard to make happen, so lets just bend over and take it with a grin?

[WA hunter14]

Predators kill deer but so do people. The reality is predators are plentiful and that's not going to change. So if deer populations are decreasing at a rate that is too high all we can do is decrease the number that hunters take.

 wouldn't that just create more predators?

[superdown]

Well speaking of the tribal tags i have encountered a nice gentleman by the name of Jason that is a Coville native and the season we hunted out of the same large campsite he had two Elk tags one bighorn tag and harvested 5 mule deer doe while we shared a campsite he did not hunt for anything besides deer during the week we camped as neighbors.

[ghosthunter]

A lot of the problem is ethics.
The game agent told us he took a 3 pt from a guy,shooting across a paved road at a deer standing on private property,while on lookers were yelling for the guy to stop.

Another guy ,on his honeymoon shot a deer standing on a sidewalk in either Twisp or Winthrop.

These kind of people should loose their hunting for years.

As far as predators , I am Not sure I buy that any more. 
I heard wolves in Nile, Never in the Methow, and I spend 20-30 days there every year in a tent.

I think it's a people problem.

[WA hunter14]

A lot of the problem is ethics.
The game agent told us he took a 3 pt from a guy,shooting across a paved road at a deer standing on private property,while on lookers were yelling for the guy to stop.

Another guy ,on his honeymoon shot a deer standing on a sidewalk in either Twisp or Winthrop.

These kind of people should loose their hunting for years.

As far as predators , I am Not sure I buy that any more. 
I heard wolves in Nile, Never in the Methow, and I spend 20-30 days there every year in a tent.

I think it's a people problem.

i believe its cats not wolves that is the major problem, you wouldn't believe the cat population there compared to a state that allows hound hunting.

[bigmacc]

A lot of the problem is ethics.
The game agent told us he took a 3 pt from a guy,shooting across a paved road at a deer standing on private property,while on lookers were yelling for the guy to stop.

Another guy ,on his honeymoon shot a deer standing on a sidewalk in either Twisp or Winthrop.

These kind of people should loose their hunting for years.

As far as predators , I am Not sure I buy that any more. 
I heard wolves in Nile, Never in the Methow, and I spend 20-30 days there every year in a tent.

I think it's a people problem.

i believe its cats not wolves that is the major problem, you wouldn't believe the cat population there compared to a state that allows hound hunting.

I 100percent agree on the cat problem, have seen 7 in the last 4 years while scouting. 

[bobcat]

Predators kill deer but so do people. The reality is predators are plentiful and that's not going to change. So if deer populations are decreasing at a rate that is too high all we can do is decrease the number that hunters take.

We can also have massive predator management reform.  Why are you so quick to accept us losing opportunity instead of us gaining opportunity via predator management?  Oh, thats going to be hard to make happen, so lets just bend over and take it with a grin?

I'd be fine with hound hunting being legal again, a year around "boot" cougar season, and a general season for bears in the spring.

But even with that I could still support some sort of limitation on mule deer hunting so that the number of hunters is controlled in some way by GMU.

I wouldn't view it as losing opportunity. Id rather have a high quality hunt every other year than a low quality hunt every year.

[Special T]

A lot of the problem is ethics.
The game agent told us he took a 3 pt from a guy,shooting across a paved road at a deer standing on private property,while on lookers were yelling for the guy to stop.

Another guy ,on his honeymoon shot a deer standing on a sidewalk in either Twisp or Winthrop.

These kind of people should loose their hunting for years.

As far as predators , I am Not sure I buy that any more. 
I heard wolves in Nile, Never in the Methow, and I spend 20-30 days there every year in a tent.

I think it's a people problem.

I've seen pics of wolves in a forum members yard in the Methow. They are there. There are a bunch  of factors causing problems and because this state loves predators the only real thing we can control (or attempt to) are the people.

[WA hunter14]

you can control the predators but people have to deticate a lot more to it. If hound hunting was legal for one winter dozens and dozens of lions would be killed in the methow and okanogan, hundreds of deer would be potetially saved over the next few years that other wize would be cat food.

[Jonathan_S]

I chuckle at how many people say they see huge two points.

[Sakko300wsm]

I've gotta ask just outta curiousity from you guys that hunt there- how many wolves have you seen, did you hunt this year , were you successful and if not how far from the road were you?

[Timberstalker]

I chuckle at how many people say they see huge two points.

In what respect?

[Humptulips]

you can control the predators but people have to deticate a lot more to it. If hound hunting was legal for one winter dozens and dozens of lions would be killed in the methow and okanogan, hundreds of deer would be potetially saved over the next few years that other wize would be cat food.

No they wouldn't because we have those stupid quotas engineered by Rob Wielgus.