frank church this fall

[WAcoyotehunter]

Four of us went into the Frank Church for an elk hunt this fall. We packed 8 horses/mules about 12 miles in.  It was tough hunting, but we managed to find two bulls and one nice buck.

The weather was a mix of rain/snow most days.  We didn't hear any elk bugling, and killed the only two bulls we saw in six days of hunting. 

[WAcoyotehunter]

That pic of the mule down was a scary deal.  We were giving 10cc of IV bute and went right through the jugular to the carotid artery and he crumpled immediately.  We had to strip the saddle and cut his lead- then give him ~10 minutes before he got up and was ready to work.  It was a scary deal for a minute or two.  He was pretty high.

[h2ofowlr]

Looks like a fun hunt!

[jackelope]

That pic of the mule down was a scary deal.  We were giving 10cc of IV bute and went right through the jugular to the carotid artery and he crumpled immediately.  We had to strip the saddle and cut his lead- then give him ~10 minutes before he got up and was ready to work.  It was a scary deal for a minute or two.  He was pretty high.

I saw this on FB. Was the IV the cause of the problem or the solution? That could have been bad.

[vandeman17]

Nice job. My old man and I were in the frank in September. He shot a rag horn bull and I shot a solid mulie. It was a fun trip

[WAcoyotehunter]

That pic of the mule down was a scary deal.  We were giving 10cc of IV bute and went right through the jugular to the carotid artery and he crumpled immediately.  We had to strip the saddle and cut his lead- then give him ~10 minutes before he got up and was ready to work.  It was a scary deal for a minute or two.  He was pretty high.

I saw this on FB. Was the IV the cause of the problem or the solution? That could have been bad.

The IV was the cause.  I like IM shots, because they are easy and safe.  IV is quick though.... The carotid lays under the jugular and is higher pressure.  If you get into it blood will push into the syringe. different than a jugular hit that you have to draw back to get blood.

Lesson learned... Old Virgil was higher than a kite for a few minutes and gave us a good scare, but I guess Bute rarely kills them. 

[Brushbuster]

Congrats!! That is some extremely rugged country. 

[elkinrutdrivemenuts]

Looks like an awesome time!  Great buck as well! 

What happened to the mule?  Was it getting sick?

[cbond3318]

Man that looks awesome!

[DaveMonti]

Yeah, why was someone giving the mule an IV?

[jennabug]

That pic of the mule down was a scary deal.  We were giving 10cc of IV bute and went right through the jugular to the carotid artery and he crumpled immediately.  We had to strip the saddle and cut his lead- then give him ~10 minutes before he got up and was ready to work.  It was a scary deal for a minute or two.  He was pretty high.

I saw this on FB. Was the IV the cause of the problem or the solution? That could have been bad.

The IV was the cause.  I like IM shots, because they are easy and safe.  IV is quick though.... The carotid lays under the jugular and is higher pressure.  If you get into it blood will push into the syringe. different than a jugular hit that you have to draw back to get blood.

Lesson learned... Old Virgil was higher than a kite for a few minutes and gave us a good scare, but I guess Bute rarely kills them.

Wow!  The only way I've given bute is as a food additive.  That would have given me a good scare too.  Looks like a fantastic trip though.

For those that don't know, bute is like ibuprofen for horses; treats inflammation and pain; can cause internal problems with overuse.

[DaveMonti]

Thanks for the explanation Jenna!

[X-Force]

Very Cool. Looks like an epic week.

[WAcoyotehunter]

Yeah, why was someone giving the mule an IV?

Not giving an IV, jut an intravenous shot.   He's an oldule and gets stored up pretty bad.   Bute is a really common drug for horses and mules

[ian_padron]

Definite bucket list trip to hunt the Frank on stock someday. Thanks for sharing your story. Wish this Backcountry Sub-Forum got more love...but I guess that's why we end up with these places all to ourselves eh?